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Who is Redszone's #19 prospect for 2013?
1) Billy Hamilton
2) Robert Stephenson
3) Tony Cingrani
4) Daniel Corcino
5) Jesse Winker
6) Nick Travieso
7) Henry Rodriguez
8) Ismael Guillon
9) Yorman Rodriguez
10) Tanner Rahier
11) Dan Langfield
12) Neftali Soto
13) Donald Lutz
14) Chad Rogers
15) Tucker Barnhart
16) David Vidal
17) Seth Mejias-Brean
18) Kyle Lotzkar
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Re: Who is Redszone's #19 prospect for 2013?
I'm fairly certain he won't get win this vote (it's going to be either Reynoso or Gelalich), but I'm going with Ryan Lamarre. He's much closer to the majors than those other two guys, was a second round draft pick (so he has some real potential), and has a fantastic glove at a premium defensive position. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him in Cincinnati this year if the Reds decide they need a legit gloveman on the bench to caddy for Choo in CF.
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Re: Who is Redszone's #19 prospect for 2013?
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Definitely not Lamarre whose numbers have declined every season. OPS .758, .720 and .708 and whose best HR season is 6.
Going Waldrop again.
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JaxRed
Definitely not Lamarre whose numbers have declined every season. OPS .758, .720 and .708 and whose best HR season is 6.
Going Waldrop again.
I wonder if they'll want to see him repeat the first half in AA to see if he's developed.
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JaxRed
Definitely not Lamarre whose numbers have declined every season. OPS .758, .720 and .708 and whose best HR season is 6.
Going Waldrop again.
Waldrop had almost the same OPS in Dayton that Lamarre had when he was there, and Waldrop plays a corner rather than centerfield. When in doubt, I always err in favor of the guy who projects to play a premium defensive position.
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mdccclxix
I wonder if they'll want to see him repeat the first half in AA to see if he's developed.
I doubt it.
It's not like he sucked at AA, he just doesn't have the power to put up a pretty OPS. His OBP (356) was plenty good to merit a promotion. IMO, he projects very nicely as a plus glove off the bench who can pinch run or pinch hit with the bases empty. You don't want him playing every day or hitting with runners on base, but he can be very successful in a limited role.
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Lamarre played with plantar fasciitis last year -- no way that didn't limit him.
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He drops a bunch if he doesn't assert himself this season IMO, but I'm giving Waldrop another year to break out. Not really sure what to make of Gelalich yet. He's definitely got a case here, but even if he was hurt, I don't remember being all that stoked about his scouting report in the first place.
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Steve4192
Waldrop had almost the same OPS in Dayton that Lamarre had when he was there, and Waldrop plays a corner rather than centerfield.
Actually, their OPS was identical (.767), which is kind of spooky. LaMarre, however, was a year older.
I like Waldrop here, but I agree that LaMarre looks like a solid defensive center fielder, and his speed plays well. Reports on him out of college were that he was a gym rat, and for that reason--along with his ability, of course--I've always looked for him to ascend. But I just haven't seen it yet. Mostly, I haven't seen him hit quite enough to convince me that he's a major-leaguer. That said, Waldrop is far from a sure thing, as well.
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Steve4192
I'm fairly certain he won't get win this vote (it's going to be either Reynoso or Gelalich), but I'm going with Ryan Lamarre. He's much closer to the majors than those other two guys, was a second round draft pick (so he has some real potential), and has a fantastic glove at a premium defensive position. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him in Cincinnati this year if the Reds decide they need a legit gloveman on the bench to caddy for Choo in CF.
I agree! If he wasn't dealing with the foot injury last year when he could barely run in August, his stats would have been much higher. Defensively, he is still probably a top 2 or 3 outfielder in this organization especially in CF. People also forget he's had 105 stolen bases the last 2 1/2 years. Will he be a home run hitter? No. The guy's a gap-type hitter as he was in college and I look for him to have a big year this year, wherever he plays!
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Lol, I wish some of you would stop changing your mind every topic. It's gonna make me...
:explode:
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Waldrop. On Lamarre (whom I also like, mostly because of our shared alma mater) vs. Waldrop, Lamarre was not only a full year older than Waldrop in their Dayton years but he had also played 3 years of major college baseball. Dayton's the highest level Waldrop's every played and he got consistently better as the season developed (ck. his month by month numbers). Chronologically he's a full three years younger than Lamarre and will this year probably be a level and a half behind him. I do think Lamarre will have a major league career but Waldrop looks to me like a significantly better prospect at this point.
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I have little doubt Lamarre is on the Reds big league radar for defense alone, as he's been on the Caravan.
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Waldrop and Ryan Wright are my 2 breakout players for 2013.
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Red Swagger
Waldrop and Ryan Wright are my 2 breakout players for 2013.
Good call
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I've had Waldrop as my breakout all along, although I also think we'll see a breakout from Yorman, and at this time next year, our system will be ranked higher because of these two guys.
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Wright
Waldrop
Y Rodriguez
Langfield
Mejias-Brean
Vidal
B Greene
Soto
Winker
Rahier
Gelalich
Buckley
will ALL have monster seasons, sky rocket up prospect rankings and no doubt increase our system's depth, talent and ranking. Health is the biggest factor. We literally have 20-30 players who could turn out to have an impact in our organization
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I don't expect much from Ryan Wright other than somewhere between Valaika and Frazier. He's that same mold, IMO.
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mdccclxix
I don't expect much from Ryan Wright other than somewhere between Valaika and Frazier. He's that same mold, IMO.
There is a formidable chasm between Todd Frazier and Chris Valaika. But yea, not expecting expecting any monster season from Ryan Wright.
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Superdude
There is a formidable chasm between Todd Frazier and Chris Valaika. But yea, not expecting expecting any monster season from Ryan Wright.
That's true. I should clarify I mean when they were both around high A a while back. Valaika just disappeared in AAA.
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Reds website prospect list:
Lotzkar-6
Wright-7
Buckley-8
Sal Romano-9
NO Barnhart, Vidal, Yorman, Lutz, B Greene, Rahier, Buckley, Reynoso, Moscot in the Top 20 for the Reds. This list is a bit diff compared to the organizational prospect rankings
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mdccclxix
That's true. I should clarify I mean when they were both around high A a while back. Valaika just disappeared in AAA.
Strange how that one turned out. He basically went from power hitting second basemen to utterly irrelevant overnight. Minor league stats are fickle beast.
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Will continue to vote for Amir Garrett. He is the big-armed wild card with a TOR ceiling but a very low floor as well. I will take a guy who has a slim shot at being a star over a bunch of guys who have no shot at being anything more than fringe major leaguer 25th man types.
Gelalich and Reynoso have some real potential, but they are miles away from achieving it just like Garrett is. If only Garrett would give up basketball and devote himself to a sport where he has a real chance of having a solid career.
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AtomicDumpling
Will continue to vote for Amir Garrett. He is the big-armed wild card with a TOR ceiling but a very low floor as well. I will take a guy who has a slim shot at being a star over a bunch of guys who have no shot at being anything more than fringe major leaguer 25th man types.
Gelalich and Reynoso have some real potential, but they are miles away from achieving it just like Garrett is. If only Garrett would give up basketball and devote himself to a sport where he has a real chance of having a solid career.
I can see a case for him at this point, but I'm not sure I'm getting the hype on Garret yet. You would think he was an outright flamethrower the way people talk about him, but all I've read is that he "touches" 95. He's got a lot to prove if that's the case. There's upside there for sure, but some of the Price and Chapman comparisons being thrown around on him seem ridiculous.
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Red Swagger
Reds website prospect list:
Lotzkar-6
Wright-7
Buckley-8
Sal Romano-9
NO Barnhart, Vidal, Yorman, Lutz, B Greene, Rahier, Buckley, Reynoso, Moscot in the Top 20 for the Reds. This list is a bit diff compared to the organizational prospect rankings
That list is NOT from this year.
Edit: Maybe it is. But that list is TERRBILE if it is actually up to date. Sean Buckley isn't close to a Top 10 prospect. He has one above-average tool, power. Production? He has none to this point. He strikes out a ton. He doesn't walk much. And he should be repeating Dayton in 2013 after hitting .244/.307/.420 there last season.
If you want to look at mainstream websites for prospect rankings, use this order:
Baseball America/Baseball Prospectus - you can't go wrong with either
John Sickels - MinorLeagueBall.com
ESPN
MLB.com
To be frank, I like Jonathan Mayo. He is a truly nice guy. But there is no convincing me that Sean Buckley is even a Top 25 prospect in this system.
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Superdude
I can see a case for him at this point, but I'm not sure I'm getting the hype on Garret yet. You would think he was an outright flamethrower the way people talk about him, but all I've read is that he "touches" 95. He's got a lot to prove if that's the case. There's upside there for sure, but some of the Price and Chapman comparisons being thrown around on him seem ridiculous.
Well I agree that Garrett is not a fantastic prospect, only that he has more upside than the rest of the guys remaining in this poll. I don't think that Garrett should have been in the Top 10, but we are voting for #19 here. Garrett has not played much baseball in his life. He has not even begun to touch his potential yet. Hopefully, once he concentrates year-round on baseball and gets a lot of coaching he can make a big leap into true prospect status.
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