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It would have been funnier if the cowboys had caught them. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/.../FIREdevil.gif
Jingoism is alive and well.
When people get riled up about the flag and the anthem I have to wonder if they realize the difference between nationalism and patriotism. We're becoming a pretty nationalistic country, and that's not at all a good thing.
Also, what Stormy said. It's satire.
I don't regard respecting this nation's national anthem and its flag as being jingoistic. America has never been, and never will be, a perfect country, but I greatly respect its flag and anthem and the sacrifices better people than me have made under that flag to defend the freedoms we have.
America is teh sux. Yee haw.
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Originally Posted by Crumbley
Wright State, Wrong University.
Satire very often pokes fun at someone or something that the people being made fun of don't find amusing. Like lawyers don't think lawyer jokes are funny and minorities don't think racist jokes are funny, etc. I think it's funny when the satirist meets the people at whose expense he's having 'fun'... he tends to think it's not so funny any more. There's a line, and usually the audience will let you know when you've crossed it. I'm positive he crossed the line in this situation...he should count himself lucky he's not watching his own funny show from a hospital bed. That would be hilarious! Different people think different things are funny. I don't think degrading a symbol many of my ancestors and friends have died defending is funny. I do think people getting the snot beat out of them for doing really stupid things is funny. It's just a matter of perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
BTW, I'm not bothered by his ignorant display of insensitivity, (I wouldn't be the one beating him up,) but I'd certainly never defend him. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/...glleybooty.gif
His audience wasn't the rodeo audience. His audience is the people watching his show.Quote:
There's a line, and usually the audience will let you know when you've crossed it.
And the people watching his show more than likely aren't going to think he crossed a line.
I also find it really amusing that so many people want him "beat up" for his performance. Nah, not jingoism at all right RB?
I'm the first to defend a person's right to free speech, but I do wonder if this doesn't fall under the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" law (lawyers, help me out--?). There's really no reason the guy couldn't have recorded his performance on the Jumbotron instead of standing there inciting what could easily have turned into a riot.
Not all all. While advocating beating up someone for expressing something disagreeable is certainly itself not evidence of patriotism, you don't have to be jinoistic to be offended by someone mocking symbols of your country--you just have to be patriotic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
His audience was the people in the rodeo, not the people to whom he later shows the video. Those watching the video can later laugh at, and feel superior to, those rubes in the audience who don't appreciate their national anthem and flag being mocked. He in turn can profit from the mockery. Lovely.
Right, but you have to be jingoistic to want to see bodily harm done to someone that mocks symbols of your country. Feel free to disagree, that's just what I believe.Quote:
you don't have to be jinoistic to be offended by someone mocking symbols of your country--you just have to be patriotic.
People who jump in a skillet sometimes are going to get burned. If you're willing to take that chance, maybe you deserve what you get.
I've only seen the show a couple times, but the segments with this character are hands down the funniest ones.
Ok, I disagree. Jingoism is nationalism with a belligerent foreign policy...like going to war for trumped up reasons. It has absolutely nothing to do with being bellicose with individual people, morons or otherwise. I never said I wanted to see him beat up, I said I thought it would be funnier than making fun of our national anthem. Personally, I don't feel he's worth the energy to beat up. What he did was make fun of the people who are (perhaps excessively) nationalistic...laughing at others who he (and his intended audience) feel superior to. I find that type of humor ugly and degrading. Had he stuck around and gotten his butt kicked and showed that on his show, he'd be making fun of himself...something I find very humorous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsfaithful