Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
I'd extend him one more year
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
Rhodes will be 41 next year. I'd offer him arb and be thrilled if he nets a 1st round pick and OK if he accepts and we get him back.
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
I'd rather get the Type A draft pick compensation if they can. Also trade Alonso for a Cliff Lee rental, and get two Type A draft picks (while going for it this year). This (trading Alonso) would be an especially good strategy if they end up drafting a college OF like Brentz, Choice, or Gary Brown this year.
Alonso for Lee would be like LaPorta for Sabathia part deux, only with hopefully better results this time.
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
I'd simply offer the arb. and roll with it, happy if he accepts content to move one if he doesn't. I know alot of people here aren't fans of Bill Bray but I haven't given up on him being Arthurs replacement if need be.
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
To me Rhodes has been better than expected during his time as a Red. Without him this season the Reds aren't where they are. He has been nails coming out of the pen in the 7th or 8th inning. I think often when relievers get old they still can be effective by using guile and trickery. Rhodes, even at 40 years old, gets outs on stuff, not trickery.
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
If the Reds offer arb, he will almost definitely take it. Will another team really sacrifice a first rounder for him?
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
Does anyone think Rhodes could get a two-year deal on the FA market? If it's certain that he could, then he'd probably decline arbitration.
RMR, do you happen to have any idea how poorly Rhodes would have to perform the rest of the year to be bumped down to a type B free agent?
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
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camisadelgolf
RMR, do you happen to have any idea how poorly Rhodes would have to perform the rest of the year to be bumped down to a type B free agent?
Here's a summary of how the Elias Rankings work. For relievers, Elias looks at the following stats over a three year period:
Total games (total relief appearances + 2 * total starts)
IP (weighted slightly less than other categories)
Wins + Saves
H/IP ratio
K/BB
ERA
Because his games & innings totals are pretty low, he's got to be pretty dominant to be a type A. If I had to guess, I'd say he needs to be fully healthy and put up a sub 3.50 ERA (and corresponding performance) to stay an A.
Here's the full list of guys currently rated A or B:
Code:
Name Team Type Score
Jonathan Broxton Los Angeles N A 91.254
Heath Bell San Diego A 84.967
Brian Wilson San Francisco A 82.023
Nick Masset Cincinnati A 80.234
Luke Gregerson San Diego A 79.666
Carlos Marmol Chicago N A 77.793
Todd Coffey Milwaukee A 77.759
Huston Street Colorado A 76.957
Leo Nunez Florida A 75.886
George Sherrill Los Angeles N A 75.686
Pedro Feliciano New York N A 75.351
Francisco Rodriguez New York N A 75.201
Francisco Cordero Cincinnati A 75.067
Brandon Lyon Houston A 74.749
Ryan Franklin St. Louis A 74.548
Tyler Clippard Washington A 74.448
Ronald Belisario Los Angeles N A 73.645
Ryan Madson Philadelphia A 73.545
Trever Miller St. Louis A 73.244
Billy Wagner Atlanta A 71.639
Rafael Betancourt Colorado A 70.569
Jeremy Affeldt San Francisco A 70.435
Arthur Rhodes Cincinnati A 69.147
Trevor Hoffman Milwaukee A 68.495
Ramon Troncoso Los Angeles N A 68.428
LaTroy Hawkins Milwaukee A 68.094
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Peter Moylan Atlanta B 67.977
Edward Mujica San Diego B 67.759
Eric O'Flaherty Atlanta B 67.575
Jeff Fulchino Houston B 67.559
Mike Adams San Diego B 66.789
Evan Meek Pittsburgh B 66.756
Sergio Romo San Francisco B 64.916
Takashi Saito Atlanta B 64.900
Angel Guzman Chicago N B 64.247
Kyle McClellan St. Louis B 61.973
Aaron Heilman Arizona B 61.572
Carlos Villanueva Milwaukee B 61.505
Guillermo Mota San Francisco B 61.137
Octavio Dotel Pittsburgh B 60.702
Sean Marshall Chicago N B 59.900
Hong-Chih Kuo Los Angeles N B 59.565
Burke Badenhop Florida B 58.930
Sean Burnett Washington B 58.445
Juan Gutierrez Arizona B 58.010
Tim Byrdak Houston B 57.960
Dennys Reyes St. Louis B 57.960
Joe Beimel Colorado B 57.860
Renyel Pinto Florida B 57.391
Joe Thatcher San Diego B 57.324
Chad Qualls Arizona B 57.157
Chad Durbin Philadelphia B 56.355
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
I'd offer him arbitration and leave it up to Arthur. If he's interested in coming back, good for him. If not, best of luck to him in his retirement or with his new team. Any draft picks we may get are a bonus. But I'd leave it up to Arthur...he's certainly earned the right to come back if he wants to. Quite possibly the best FA reliever we've EVER signed.
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
If the Reds stay in it, offer him Arb. If they fall out of it, deal him for Reid Brignac and recall Chapman to get his feet wet as the late inning lefty in August and September.
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
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mth123
If the Reds stay in it, offer him Arb. If they fall out of it, deal him for Reid Brignac and recall Chapman to get his feet wet as the late inning lefty in August and September.
This.
If a team out of contention could net a young starting SS for a middle reliever on the wrong side of 40, the GM should get a medal.
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
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Benihana
This.
If a team out of contention could net a young starting SS for a middle reliever on the wrong side of 40, the GM should get a medal.
Brignac won't start in TB and they are only missing a late inning lefty. Rhodes won't cost them much in the way of dough and may be the thing that puts them over the top in the postseason.
Is there a better lefty reliever that they could get?
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA
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Originally Posted by
Benihana
This.
If a team out of contention could net a young starting SS for a middle reliever on the wrong side of 40, the GM should get a medal.
Brignac won't start in TB and they are only missing a late inning lefty. Rhodes won't cost them much in the way of dough and may be the thing that puts them over the top in the postseason.
Is there a better lefty reliever that they could get?
Re: Arthur Rhodes: Type A FA