Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
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Tadasimha
I see what you did there! :laugh:
Bet he'd be more interested in playing for the Rockies or the Mariners.
The Reds ought to tell him he can work with Tom Browning as his personal pitching coach.
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
I'd have more time for the conspiracy theory if the Reds didn't have a highly touted prospect who played the same position and was a year ahead.
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
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Originally Posted by
Crumbley
I'd have more time for the conspiracy theory if the Reds didn't have a highly touted prospect who played the same position and was a year ahead.
This.
Also, let's not forget Mesoraco is much better defensively. He'll be fine as a hitter eventually. I liked the pop that he showed in limited action in 2012. He's a naturally strong (and tough) young man. I think he'll end up being a 20 HR/year guy when he reaches the peak of his career.
The Reds have Hanigan for probably a few more years, but Mesoraco is certainly the catcher of the future. The next-best prospect at the position in the organization is Tucker Barnhart and he's nowhere near the prospect Mesoraco is/was.
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
The one gut reaction that I remember from watching Yasmani this year on a few occasions was that he didn't seem to be a likable guy. Not that that means anything at all but it has stuck in my mind.
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
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Originally Posted by
Crumbley
I'd have more time for the conspiracy theory if the Reds didn't have a highly touted prospect who played the same position and was a year ahead.
I'm not sure I believe it either, but it's not really a "conspiracy" to suggest management suspected a player was producing with benefit of synthetic substances.
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
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westofyou
Jocketty was the GM when the Reds traded Brantley to the Cardinals, he wasn't healthy and the Cards didn't trade with the Reds for the rest of the Bowden era and made it clear why
hmm..it's no coincidence that Bowden no longer has a job in baseball.
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
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Always Red
hmm..it's no coincidence that Bowden no longer has a job in baseball.
Bowden sucking while in Cincinnati and then Washington is the biggest reason he's no longer an MLB GM. If he would have consistently put winning teams on the field, his bosses wouldn't have cared about a shady trade or three. Bowden was just a very bad GM, period. He tried to run the team like a fantasy team. He's a complete clown in my book. (And not just because he used to wear leather pants. OK, well, that too.)
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
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Blitz Dorsey
Bowden sucking while in Cincinnati and then Washington is the biggest reason he's no longer an MLB GM. If he would have consistently put winning teams on the field, his bosses wouldn't have cared about a shady trade or three. Bowden was just a very bad GM, period. He tried to run the team like a fantasy team. He's a complete clown in my book. (And not just because he used to wear leather pants. OK, well, that too.)
It wasn't all Jim Bowden's fault that he couldn't put a winning team on the field in Cincinnati. His hands were tied behind his back by the apathetic, do-nothing Lindner/Allen regime. He had few resources here.
His DC tenure, however, was pathetic.
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
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Reds/Flyers Fan
It wasn't all Jim Bowden's fault that he couldn't put a winning team on the field in Cincinnati. His hands were tied behind his back by the apathetic, do-nothing Lindner/Allen regime. He had few resources here.
His DC tenure, however, was pathetic.
I beg to disagree about Bowden in Cincy. While Uncle Carl and Allen were not great owners/team presidents, they were not the ones fixated on 5 tool players at the expense of everything else needed by the Reds.
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Strikes Out Looking
I beg to disagree about Bowden in Cincy. While Uncle Carl and Allen were not great owners/team presidents, they were not the ones fixated on 5 tool players at the expense of everything else needed by the Reds.
While Bowden's faults have been well documented, I'm not sure Billy Beane could have been successful under the Lindner/Allen regime, especially when high draft picks were punted.
Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
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Brutus
I'm not sure I believe it either, but it's not really a "conspiracy" to suggest management suspected a player was producing with benefit of synthetic substances.
Is it unethical to not pass on your suspision? If I knew I was trading a guy who couldn't hit a curve, I wouldn't feel the need to disclose it.
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Rojo
Is it unethical to not pass on your suspision? If I knew I was trading a guy who couldn't hit a curve, I wouldn't feel the need to disclose it.
I don't think it's unethical, personally.
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Brutus
I don't think it's unethical, personally.
Neither do I. I don't view it as analogous to withholding injury-related information, such as the Brantley/Young deal.
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If it is nothing but suspicion i.e. a gut feeling, I don't have an issue with it. Now to have evidence and not do anything about it is Bowdenesque.