Most overrated FB team of all time
Notre Dame
How in the world were they considered a National Title contender? How were they ranked 6th going into this game with USC?
They have beat a total of 1 current ranked team...Georgia Tech...The first game of the season that they squeaked by.
What a schedule Navy, North Carolina, Air force, Army.
Talk about a team living off their past.
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When you're 10-1, where are you supposed to be ranked? It's not like they had a lot of other 1 loss teams behind them.
They're a good team. They were a little overmatched tonight, but they can play with most teams in the country. They'd beat Florida, IMO.
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MWM
When you're 10-1, where are you supposed to be ranked? It's not like they had a lot of other 1 loss teams behind them.
They're a good team. They were a little overmatched tonight, but they can play with most teams in the country. They'd beat Florida, IMO.
When was the last time they actually beat a top team?
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guttle11
When was the last time they actually beat a top team?
Michigan was ranked in the top 5 when they beat them last year. And were it not for an illegal play with no time left on the clock, they would have beaten the #1 team in the country last year. And no one has been able to beat USC lately. They've played the teams on their schedule, what more are they supposed to do. Not being able to beat Michigan or USC this year isn't exactly something to hang your head over. And it certaily doesn't mean you're not a good team.
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It's easy to go 10-1 with a schedule like that. They schedule two top teams a year(michigan USC) and it seems like they loose to them every year.
I think they struggle with every team in the top 20. IMHO
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Willy
It's easy to go 10-1 with a schedule like that. They schedule two top teams a year(michigan USC) and it seems like they loose to them every year.
Uh, no it's not EASY to go 10-1 or more teams with weak schedules would do it. And before this year, they had beaten Michigan the previous two season, so I'm not sure where you get that they lose to them every year. And Notre Dame generally plays one of the toughest schedules in the country. this year the teams on their schedule, with the exception of UM and USC, happened to be pretty bad.
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I think they struggle with every team in the top 20. IMHO
You're free to think that if you'd like. I think they'd beat most of the teams outside the top 10.
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Charlie Weiss is overrated as a play caller imo. He is too risky. He refuses to play field position, and goes for it on 4th down way to often, most notably at midfield. He is such a good tactician his bravado gets the best of him. He is his own worst enemy. Against USC, Michigan and Ohio State last year his decisions to go for it on fourth down forsaking sure points via a field goal cost him dearly.
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Weis coached about as well as he dressed tonight.
MWM, yes, Michigan was highly ranked last year, but those were preseason rankings. Michigan ended up 7-5. That's not a big win, the same way OSU's win over Texas isn't "big" anymore.
Michigan State
Penn State
Army
Navy
Air Force
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
UCLA
Purdue
Stanford
Not exactly a guantlet. There's about 15 teams that would win every one of those games, and put up much better showings against USC and Michigan.
Notre Dame is as overrated as they come. Every time they play a physical team, they have a ton of injuries and they get rolled. They're soft.
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I don't get the logic. Just because the teams you play aren't very good doesn't mean you're not capable of beating good teams. Their only two losses are to the second and third best teams in the country. there's nothing a team can do about their schedule. It's not their fault most of the teams on their schedule weren't very good this year. You can't make judgments on teams based solely on how good or bad other teams are. Saying the teams they beat weren't very good, therefore they're not very good either just isn't logical. I've watched Notre Dame a few times this year, and while they're not a top tier team, they're right at the top of the second tier. Like I said before, Florida is ranked #4 and I think they're better than Florida. I think they're better than any of the Big East teams or the Big 12 teams. They could play with anyone outside the top 5, IMO. This year, there's a larg gap between the top few teams and the rest of the country. That isn't usually the case, but this year I think it is.
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guttle11
Weis coached about as well as he dressed tonight.
MWM, yes, Michigan was highly ranked last year, but those were preseason rankings. Michigan ended up 7-5. That's not a big win, the same way OSU's win over Texas isn't "big" anymore.
Michigan State
Penn State
Army
Navy
Air Force
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
UCLA
Purdue
Stanford
Not exactly a guantlet. There's about 15 teams that would win every one of those games, and put up much better showings against USC and Michigan.
Notre Dame is as overrated as they come. Every time they play a physical team, they have a ton of injuries and they get rolled. They're soft.
ND's strength of schedule is higher than 10 of the top 15 teams.
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guttle11
Not exactly a guantlet. There's about 15 teams that would win every one of those games, and put up much better showings against USC and Michigan.
Lot of bowl-eligible teams on that list...
I'd be EXTREMELY eager to hear you name 15 teams that would win every single one of those games and put up better showings against USC and Michigan. Because every team in the nation has shown themselves to be more than capable of looking like total garbage on any given Saturday (that includes you, OSU -- who couldn't put away an Illinois team that got beat by Ohio University at home).
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Caveat Emperor
I'd be EXTREMELY eager to hear you name 15 teams that would win every single one of those games and put up better showings against USC and Michigan. Because every team in the nation has shown themselves to be more than capable of looking like total garbage on any given Saturday (that includes you, OSU -- who couldn't put away an Illinois team that got beat by Ohio University at home).
Exactly. And lets not forget Ball State either. Michigan escaped by the hair of their chinny chin chin.
But good teams still find a way to win those games when struggling.
My hat was off to Ron Zook who prepped/coached a darn good game against OSU.
He has a very young Illini team (50 freshman), with some quality talent that could make an impression in the Big 10.
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BuckWoody
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