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uteroasis 01-28-2013 10:01 AM

Chapman to Rotation in May
 
Interesting piece of information from Miss Enquirer:

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@MissEnquirer: Phil Castellini expects Aroldis Chapman to pitch out of the bullpen in April and maybe start in May #RedsCaravan
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RiverRat13 01-28-2013 10:26 AM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
That would make the most sense so that he could start in the playoffs. The downside is that it makes it easier for Dusty to pull the plug on Chapman starting at all.

JB12 01-28-2013 12:26 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
^ Not quite sure what you mean by "The downside is that it makes it easier for Dusty to pull the plug on Chapman starting at all."

EDIT: I misread the initial post--

TSJ55 01-28-2013 12:28 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
I still hate to see this shake-up to the staff. I'm a big time believer in "If it ain't broke..."

alwaysawarrior 01-28-2013 01:01 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
This makes sense. Glad to know they have a plan.

bigfunguy 01-28-2013 01:37 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
...or until a starter gets hurt---we've been SOOO lucky in this regard its just a matter of time

uteroasis 01-28-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfunguy (Post 2799284)
...or until a starter gets hurt---we've been SOOO lucky in this regard its just a matter of time

Great point. Injury could decide the season more than anything else. This makes Mike Leake as the #6 an excellent fallback plan. I'm glad we have the depth, but let's hope we don't see Galarraga or Redmond starting anything other than a make-up doubleheader.

As for Chapman out of the bullpen in April, I just hope that this plan makes sense as far as development. How easily can a pitcher go from starter (in Spring Training) to short relief (April) to starter again (May)? Will he be used often in April? Will he be a long-man? Are we looking at 5 inning starts in May? Lots of unanswered questions that will hopefully take shape this Spring.

alwaysawarrior 01-28-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by uteroasis (Post 2799296)
Great point. Injury could decide the season more than anything else. This makes Mike Leake as the #6 an excellent fallback plan. I'm glad we have the depth, but let's hope we don't see Galarraga or Redmond starting anything other than a make-up doubleheader.

As for Chapman out of the bullpen in April, I just hope that this plan makes sense as far as development. How easily can a pitcher go from starter (in Spring Training) to short relief (April) to starter again (May)? Will he be used often in April? Will he be a long-man? Are we looking at 5 inning starts in May? Lots of unanswered questions that will hopefully take shape this Spring.

I would imagine he will begin with several five inning starts. To me it makes sense to have Leake in the pen as a long man ready to go at least for the first several Chapman starts. Unfortunately Chapman should have stayed as a starter and this year we would have to worry about it, but that ship has sailed so they have to try something.

webbbj 01-28-2013 03:06 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
I think I would rather see them do a delayed spring training. Start working him 3-4 innings at a time in Louiville in April, then get a few starts up to 5 innings by May then just bring him up.

bigfunguy 01-28-2013 03:07 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
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Originally Posted by alwaysawarrior (Post 2799312)
I would imagine he will begin with several five inning starts. To me it makes sense to have Leake in the pen as a long man ready to go at least for the first several Chapman starts. Unfortunately Chapman should have stayed as a starter and this year we would have to worry about it, but that ship has sailed so they have to try something.

How about an understanding that it's a Chapman/Leake combo every 5th day?

uteroasis 01-28-2013 03:10 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
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Originally Posted by bigfunguy (Post 2799317)
How about an understanding that it's a Chapman/Leake combo every 5th day?

How's that for a change-up in styles?

Pony Boy 01-28-2013 03:18 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
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Originally Posted by bigfunguy (Post 2799317)
How about an understanding that it's a Chapman/Leake combo every 5th day?

Is there any precedent for that arrangement? I can't remember that ever being done for any other pitcher.

bigfunguy 01-28-2013 03:22 PM

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No precedent I'm aware of, but if you did it that way you'd limit the innings, but both could also keep to the "routine" of being a starter (knowing when you'll pitch).

OGB 01-28-2013 04:25 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
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Originally Posted by webbbj (Post 2799315)
I think I would rather see them do a delayed spring training. Start working him 3-4 innings at a time in Louiville in April, then get a few starts up to 5 innings by May then just bring him up.

This seems ideal to me. I would imagine the brass has him targeted for a maximum of around 130 to 140 innings. I think ideally, you bring him up about 50 games in if you want him as an option if they make the playoffs.

bigfunguy 01-29-2013 01:49 PM

Re: Chapman to Rotation in May
 
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Originally Posted by OGB (Post 2799346)
This seems ideal to me. I would imagine the brass has him targeted for a maximum of around 130 to 140 innings. I think ideally, you bring him up about 50 games in if you want him as an option if they make the playoffs.

see, I disagree---work him in via the bullpen for building up starter's endurance, because he is still one of your best ptichers. If they bring him up after 50 games and miss the playoffs by 1 game, you're left to think "what if..." I'd rather work him in slowly--but still mowing down major league hitters. :>)


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