Why is Bronson Arroyo continously being lumped in with trash and garbage on this thread?
As far as StL goes, you're our rival because you're really good, because we compete for the same division, we play 5 or 6 series a year, and because our respective teams clearly don't get along. Baseball rivalries are fluid. Some liked Boston/NYY are steeped in tradition. Some like Chi/StL are related to geography. But most have to do with who your main competition is at the time.
For a long time, the Reds rivals were La. Then it was Houston. Now neither of those teams are relevant rivalry wise.
Ill give you KC and Chi, but if you asked most NYM or LA fans if the Cardinals were a rival, rheyd probably laugh and say ""What what are you talking about?"
Cardinal fans hate phillips and cueto. But they all still really respect walt jocketty, and teams that plays a hard nose brand of baseball like the reds do. People here have brought up stuff cards fans say on stl today and i admit i dont go there so i havent seen it. I do frequent "birdsonthebat" and "cardsclubhouse" and while people there vent their frustrations about the reds kicking cardinal butt, they dont hate on everything the franchise has done or stands for.
I'd have trouble hating us too. ;)
The difference between Cincinnati Red Arroyo and St. Louis Cardinal Westbrook is the same difference between 2011 Chris Carpenter and 2011 Homer Bailey.
Bronson Arroyo's nickname is "Saturn Nuts." Jake Westbrook's nickname is..."Jake."
I'm really broken up about Carp's setback. I take great comfort though in knowing that at least now he'll have plenty of time to explain things to his son.
Carpenter's $10.5M decision leaves irks some fans
08:15 AM ET 02.12 | In the eyes of many, Chris Carpenter's refusal to officially retire has more to do with holding out hope than anything else. Unless there's a baseball (and medical) miracle, [Carpenter] won't pitch for the Cardinals this season. And he's probably done for his career. The Cardinals owe Carpenter a guaranteed $10.5 million this year and he'll collect the money unless he relinquished it by formally retiring. I wouldn't expect Carpenter to retire now. ... The reality of Carpenter being paid $10.5 million this season has caused a mild outbreak of sourness on the Internet, with a small minority of fans calling Carpenter "greedy" and demanding that he retire and give the Cardinals a chance to put the money to better use.
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
"Son, even if it's immoral, don't ever leave a damn nickel on the table."
There, he won't have to come up with an explanation now.