Typical Cardinal logic, lol. Experience only counts if it's in the playoffs. Unbelievable.
Shhh... they is teachin us how to be the best fans ever...
I simply made a clear point that if you compared the two rosters -- the Cards and the Reds -- the Cardinals have played in far more playoff games. That's it.
If you don't think there's a difference between winning a game deep in October and winning a game in the middle of June... Well, you and I just will never agree.
Look, it took the Cardinals years of stubbing their toes in the playoffs before winning it all in 06 and later in 11. I'd argue that 06 team was one of the least talented to play for St. Louis in years. But when it came time to perform, they did. I absolutely believe it helped that many of the key contributors had played and won meaningful playoff games before.
[QUOTE=CardsFanBob;2882621I disagree wholeheartedly. There's a much bigger pressure in October baseball. I don't know how anyone can disagree with that.
Well, it does make a massive difference. That's not to say that the Reds couldn't win the division or wild card and then win the Series. They absolutely could. They have the talent. They have some postseason experience. But they haven't broken through that ceiling of winning a series.
Look, it took the Cardinals years of stubbing their toes in the playoffs before winning it all in 06 and later in 11. I'd argue that 06 team was one of the least talented to play for St. Louis in years. But when it came time to perform, they did. I absolutely believe it helped that many of the key contributors had played and won meaningful playoff games before.[/QUOTE]
The Reds and Cardinals have each made the playoffs twice in the last three seasons. It really doesn't matter how many games in the playoffs they won or played. Playoff experience is playoff experience.
One thing most Cardinals have never done is win a division title. Something many Reds have done twice in the last three seasons. To be honest, it really doesn't matter all that much, what matters is that both teams have been in contention these past three seasons. Just like how many playoff games they won doesn't matter. All that matters is that they experienced the playoffs.
I was talking apples and you came out of nowhere trying to make a point about oranges.
Well, 90% of the topics on sports msg boards are silly points to argure if we're being technical.
The 06 Cardinals team proves the playoffs are a complete crap-shoot.
I understand it wasn't your original topic, but ajswartz brought up an interesting question, albeit a little early in the season to discuss, but: Who would you favor in a postseason series? The Reds or the Cardinals?
You say the Reds have more experience. If so, wouldn't that say be a determining factor in deciding who would be favored? It's a simple question, and an interesting one... at least to me.
And to answer your question: No, Trevor Rosenthal hasn't played in more playoff games than Brandon Phillips. Rosenthal has pitched in 7 playoff games. Phillips in 8. (Big difference, I know).
Rosie's stat line in those games: 8.2 IP, 2 hits, 2 walks, 15 Ks, 0.00 ERA, and a WHIP of 0.43.
Phillips stat line in the playoffs: 990 OPS, with 2 homers, and 8 RBIs.
Looks like both guys perform well under the bright lights.
Post season experience is overrated. The 1990's Atlanta Braves had a ton of playoff experience and they had one World Series win to show for it. NO ONE cares what a team did or did not do from year to year. Generally, the playoffs reward the team whose pitching staff can sustain dominance for a month' s time. Whether it is two or three starters and a core group of shut down relievers.... But to say experience makes a team better or worse in the post season because the franchise was there the year before is pretty ludicrous. Look at the 1990 World Series. If experience counted for anything, that Series should have been ALL Athletics. But, in then end, Rijo and the bullpen were lights out, and just being there the previous two years did nothing for Oakland.
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