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FlyingPig 01-02-2006 07:18 PM

Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
the first timers for '06 are:

Rick Aguilera, Tim Belcher, Albert Belle, Will Clark, Alex Fernandez, Gary Gaetti, Dwight Gooden, Ozzie Guillen, Juan Guzman, Orel Hershiser, Gregg Jefferies, Lance Johnson, Doug Jones, Roberto Kelly, Mickey Morandini, Hal Morris, Jaime Navarro, Luis Polonia, Mike Stanley, Walt Weiss, John Wetteland, Mark Whiten

some of the ones still trying:

Bert Blyleven, Dave Concepcion, Andre Dawson, Steve Garvey, Goose Gossage, Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Willie McGee, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Jim Rice, Bruce Sutter, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, John Wetteland


I'd have to say Hershiser for sure..

As for Concepcion, I still can't see how they could put Ryne Sandberg in over him. If they continue to water down the Hall by putting in basically "good players of their era" instead of great ones, I'd say put Andre Dawson in.

MrCinatit 01-02-2006 07:48 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
there is a difference between who will make it, and who i would like to see there.
i'd like to see Blylevn, Concepcion, Dawson, Goose, T.J., Sutter and Smith make it - show some of the old relievers some love.

cincinnati chili 01-02-2006 07:51 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
If it were up to me, nobody on that list would ever get in, with the possible exceptions of Blyleven, Rice, Gossage and Sutton.

Col_ IN Reds fan 01-02-2006 07:59 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
No one on the list should get in this year.

chicoruiz 01-02-2006 08:15 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
Weird... not too many years ago I would have cheerfully bet my house that Doc Gooden and Will Clark would coast into the Hall...You never can tell, fellow citizens, you never can tell...

GAC 01-02-2006 08:16 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
Any more, it seems like the HOF committee is hunting for inductees, or that they are under some sort of obligation to yearly vote someone in. If it ain't there, it ain't there. ;)

Cyclone792 01-02-2006 08:28 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
Who I think will make it ... Sutter.

Who I believe should make it ... Blyleven, Gossage, Clark, Trammell ... and I've been on the fence, but I'll go with Murphy too.

Joseph 01-02-2006 08:39 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
It ain't there :)

Heath 01-02-2006 10:15 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
George Grande's gotta do SOMETHING that weekend of HOF Induction. If not, George is going to tell jokes or sing & dance. I'd rather induct someone, thank you.

westofyou 01-02-2006 11:11 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
Bert Blyleven deserves the nod.

Code:

BATTERS FACED                  BFP      N_W      W      N_L      L      RSAA   
1    Phil Niekro              22611      337      318      255      274      324 
2    Nolan Ryan                22575      336      324      280      292      205 
3    Steve Carlton            21683      327      329      246      244      282 
4    Don Sutton                21631      310      324      270      256      137 
5    Gaylord Perry            20586      318      298      227      247      313 
6    Bert Blyleven            20491      313      287      224      250      344  
7    Tom Seaver                19369      312      311      204      205      404 
8    Tommy John                19189      278      286      228      220      171 
9    Ferguson Jenkins          18400      291      284      219      226      271 
10  Frank Tanana              17641      252      240      224      236      100 

COMPLETE GAMES                  CG      N_W      W      N_L      L      RSAA   
1    Gaylord Perry              297      318      298      227      247      313 
2    Ferguson Jenkins            267      291      284      219      226      271 
3    Steve Carlton              254      327      329      246      244      282 
4    Phil Niekro                245      337      318      255      274      324 
5    Bert Blyleven              242      313      287      224      250      344 
6    Tom Seaver                  231      312      311      204      205      404 
7    Nolan Ryan                  222      336      324      280      292      205 
8    Jim Palmer                  211      251      268      169      152      314 
9    Bob Gibson                  195      187      180      110      117      252 
10  Catfish Hunter              181      204      224      186      166      56 

GAMES STARTED                  GS      N_W      W      N_L      L      RSAA   
1    Nolan Ryan                  773      336      324      280      292      205 
2    Don Sutton                  756      310      324      270      256      137 
3    Phil Niekro                716      337      318      255      274      324 
4    Steve Carlton              709      327      329      246      244      282 
5    Bert Blyleven              685      313      287      224      250      344 
6    Tommy John                  683      278      286      228      220      171 
7    Gaylord Perry              660      318      298      227      247      313 
8    Tom Seaver                  647      312      311      204      205      404 
9    Frank Tanana                616      252      240      224      236      100 
10  Ferguson Jenkins            594      291      284      219      226      271 

ERA                            DIFF  PLAYER  LEAGUE    N_W      W      N_L      L      RSAA   
1    Jim Palmer                0.86    2.86    3.72      251      268      169      152      314 
2    Tom Seaver                0.79    2.86    3.66      312      311      204      205      404 
3    Gaylord Perry              0.55    3.09    3.64      318      298      227      247      313 
4    Nolan Ryan                0.53    3.19    3.72      336      324      280      292      205 
5    Bert Blyleven              0.50    3.31    3.81      313      287      224      250      344 
6    Dennis Eckersley          0.47    3.46    3.93      198      188      143      153      204 
7    Don Sutton                0.45    3.26    3.71      310      324      270      256      137 
8    Tommy John                0.43    3.34    3.76      278      286      228      220      171 
9    Vida Blue                  0.42    3.26    3.68      201      209      169      161      89 
10  Steve Carlton              0.41    3.22    3.63      327      329      246      244      282 

STRIKEOUTS/9 IP                DIFF  PLAYER  LEAGUE    N_W      W      N_L      L      RSAA   
1    Nolan Ryan                4.24    9.55    5.31      336      324      280      292      205 
2    Steve Carlton              1.69    7.13    5.44      327      329      246      244      282 
3    Mickey Lolich              1.53    7.00    5.46      192      194      175      173      52 
4    Bert Blyleven              1.46    6.70    5.24      313      287      224      250      344 
5    Dennis Eckersley          1.46    6.55    5.10      198      188      143      153      204 
6    Tom Seaver                1.44    6.85    5.41      312      311      204      205      404 
7    Ferguson Jenkins          1.08    6.38    5.31      291      284      219      226      271 
8    Luis Tiant                0.96    6.19    5.24      219      219      168      168      159 
9    Frank Tanana              0.78    5.96    5.17      252      240      224      236      100 
10  Vida Blue                  0.74    5.85    5.12      201      209      169      161      89 

STRIKEOUTS/WALKS                DIFF  PLAYER  LEAGUE    N_W      W      N_L      L      RSAA   
1    Dennis Eckersley          1.63    3.18    1.55      198      188      143      153      204 
2    Ferguson Jenkins          1.53    3.20    1.67      291      284      219      226      271 
3    Bert Blyleven              1.20    2.80    1.60      313      287      224      250      344  
4    Don Sutton                0.98    2.66    1.68      310      324      270      256      137 
5    Tom Seaver                0.95    2.62    1.67      312      311      204      205      404 
6    Mickey Lolich              0.93    2.59    1.66      192      194      175      173      52 
7    Gaylord Perry              0.88    2.56    1.68      318      298      227      247      313 
8    Jim Kaat                  0.69    2.35    1.66      221      228      185      178      115 
9    Frank Tanana              0.63    2.21    1.58      252      240      224      236      100 
10  Luis Tiant                0.58    2.19    1.61      219      219      168      168      159


RedsBaron 01-03-2006 06:28 AM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
The guys I'm sold on as Hall of Famers: Blyleven, Gossage, Trammell.
The guys I'm on the fence with as far as the HOF: Sutter, Dawson, Rice, Parker, Clark, Murphy, Morris, Concepcion, Mattingly, John.
The guy who has the numbers that I just can't see as Hall of Famer, at least not yet: Belle.
The guys I can't ever see as Hall of Famers: Everyone else on the above list.

MrCinatit 01-03-2006 07:37 AM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
gosh...no love shown for Jaime Navarro? :p:

registerthis 01-03-2006 11:45 AM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
From the moment I first laid eyes on Juan Guzman, I thought "That man has 'hall of fame' written all over him."

Cyclone792 01-03-2006 12:58 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath
George Grande's gotta do SOMETHING that weekend of HOF Induction. If not, George is going to tell jokes or sing & dance. I'd rather induct someone, thank you.

Don't worry, this is the year they elect about two dozen Negro Leaguers so there will be players getting in regardless of what the BBWAA decides. George Grande should very well be in Cooperstown, and we should get ourselves a weekend of not-so-terrible Reds TV broadcasts.

M2 01-03-2006 01:03 PM

Re: Who makes the 2006 Baseball Hall of Fame?
 
Bruce Sutter and Jim Rice probably have the best shots.

Though Blyleven and Trammell should be and the BBWAA deserves to be eliminated from the voting due to oversights like these. It's full-on ridiculous those two guys aren't already enshrined.


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