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Krusty 07-20-2006 02:22 PM

Wickman To The Braves
 
Indians trade Wickman to Braves
1:27 p.m.

PAUL HOYNES
Plain Dealer Reporter

The Indians traded Bob Wickman, their all-time saves leader, to Atlanta on Thursday afternoon for a minor league prospect.

The Indians will hold a 2:45 p.m. conference call with general manager Mark Shapiro to announce the trade.

Wickman, who made his 750th appearance in the Tribe's 6-4 victory over the Angels on Wednesday, is 15-for-18 in save situations this year. Altanta, struggling to reach the postseason for the 15th consecutive year in the National League East, has had bullpen problems all season.

The Indians signed Wickman over the winter to a one-year $5 million
contract. He went 45-for-50 in save situations last year for the Tribe.

Wickman passed Doug Jones as the Tribe's all-time saves leader on May 7 against Seattle. It was Wickman's 138th save as an Indian.

Before Wickman, the Indians traded veterans Jason Johnson and Eduardo Perez since falling out of the American League Central race. The prospect they're receiving from the Braves will not have an impact on this year's big-league team.

Wickman, with 10 years in the big leagues and five years with the same team, had to approve the deal.

oneupper 07-20-2006 02:27 PM

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Bad news. Braves still have 3 games in Cincy.

edabbs44 07-20-2006 02:39 PM

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Single A catcher for Wickman. AK/Lopez for Bray and Maj.

Schuerholz>Krivsky

pedro 07-20-2006 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edabbs44
Single A catcher for Wickman. AK/Lopez for Bray and Maj.

Schuerholz>Krivsky


wickman is a 37 yr old soon to be free agent who had a no trade clause.

but schuerholz is a better gm.

kheidg- 07-20-2006 03:05 PM

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Yea, the Braves certainly didn't give up much at all for Wickman. A rookie ball catcher, he batted over .300 last year, but it was rookie ball.

edabbs44 07-20-2006 03:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedro
wickman is a 37 yr old soon to be free agent who had a no trade clause.

but schuerholz is a better gm.

There is still a gigantic gap btw a A ball catcher and what the Nats got. No trade clause or not, I think Kriv got nervous. Maybe the mkt isn;t as high as Wayne thought.

HotCorner 07-20-2006 03:28 PM

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I would compare this trade to the Reds trade for Everyday Eddie. Aging veteran closer for an average prospect.

Tommyjohn25 07-20-2006 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCorner
I would compare this trade to the Reds trade for Everyday Eddie. Aging veteran closer for an average prospect.


Exactly, but when Krivsky did it he was lauded as an idiot by most on this forum. Schuerholz does it and he's just genius. :rolleyes:

edabbs44 07-20-2006 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommyjohn25
Exactly, but when Krivsky did it he was lauded as an idiot by most on this forum. Schuherholtz does it and he's just genius. :rolleyes:

The Guardado trade, IMO, was fine. The Kearns deal was not. And Kriv gave up a AA pitcher for Guardado while Schuerhloz gave up an A catcher.

paulrichjr 07-20-2006 03:49 PM

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I don't think the trade was all that good either BUT there is a big difference in my opinion. We got 2 young and very cheap pitchers while Wickman is old and very expensive. A cheap pitcher will cost you more than an expensive one...(Period)

KronoRed 07-20-2006 03:52 PM

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Worry about the Braves

BoydsOfSummer 07-20-2006 04:12 PM

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Was Max Ramirez the catcher?

BuckeyeRedleg 07-20-2006 04:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paulrichjr
I don't think the trade was all that good either BUT there is a big difference in my opinion. We got 2 young and very cheap pitchers while Wickman is old and very expensive. A cheap pitcher will cost you more than an expensive one...(Period)


Young and cheap. Those are the key words. Since those words are such a key, I take it that the trade with Washington wasn't really about this year, like Wayne wants everyone to believe.

If it's about this year, you take Wickman for a nothing prospect (like the Braves did).

Instead, other than Bray, we basically got nothing and gave up a whole helluva lot.

edabbs44 07-20-2006 04:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoydsOfSummer
Was Max Ramirez the catcher?

Yes.

BoydsOfSummer 07-20-2006 04:43 PM

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Nice catching prospect. After the year Salty is having,Max might be as good a prospect.


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