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Rojo 09-14-2006 10:20 PM

Stick a fork in it....
 
They're done kaput, finished, finito-benito, Gandhi, outta here, a ghost, a vapor, Nyet, nein, no, non, nicht,Adios, ciao, sayanora, -- Deee-nied. The fat lady's singing, Elvis has left the building, the train has left the station.

Unless......

Heath 09-14-2006 10:24 PM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
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Originally Posted by Rojo (Post 1160368)

Unless......

1964 comes back and the St. Louis Cardinals are disguised as the Philadelphia Phillies and the Cincinnati Reds are the St. Louis Cardinals.

Chico Ruiz stole home against the Phillies to win 1-0 and to start the Phils slide. When I heard Freel was at third today, I saw people type that Freel should steal home. I immediately thought of Chico Ruiz.

Who knows. The schedule sure looks easy.

paintmered 09-14-2006 10:35 PM

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Unless......

We get hire a Ukrainian spy to add a "special something" to the Cardinals food during a team meal. The entire team falls ill for the remaining of the season and is regulated to bed rest.

More realistically and legally, it's going to take a collapse of epic proportions by the Cardinals since there are too many teams between the Reds and the Wild Card.



This reminds me of a personal favorite golf quote.

Reporter: "What will you have to shoot to win tomorrow?"
Golfer: "The rest of the field."

TheBigLebowski 09-14-2006 10:36 PM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
We probably are, but it is not out of the realm of possibilities that we win the W/C. Sure beats watching Josh Hall and Brian Reith pitching this time of year and being 18 gb.

Heath 09-14-2006 10:39 PM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
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Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski (Post 1160379)
We probably are, but it is not out of the realm of possibilities that we win the W/C. Sure beats watching Josh Hall and Brian Reith pitching this time of year and being 18 gb.

Yeah we get Jason Johnson, Sun Woo Kim, and Chris Mihalak.

:D

TheBigLebowski 09-14-2006 10:43 PM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
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Originally Posted by Heath (Post 1160382)
Yeah we get Jason Johnson, Sun Woo Kim, and Chris Mihalak.

:D

You're right - 6 in one hand, a half dozen in the other - only diff is that the half dozen is older than the 6 in this circumstance.

vaticanplum 09-14-2006 11:44 PM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
It is still quite a close race in the wild card. We can't afford to lose too many games, but the rest of the teams in that race are in the exact same position.

macro 09-15-2006 12:02 AM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
Sadly, there is no "unless". It's over.

WVRedsFan 09-15-2006 12:28 AM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
It was over when the Reds headed to Milwaukee at 54-48 on July 28th and proceded to lose early and often after winning the first game. In fact, that's the watermark as they have gone 18-26 since. Death rattle stuff.

Before the AS break, the Reds were scoring 5.11 runs per game and allowing 5.33, a difference of 0.22 runs. They were one game over .500. Since the AS break they have averaged 4.35 runs and allowed an average of 4.79, a difference of 0.44 runs. In both cases the opponents were scoring more than us, but we've lost 0.76 runs per game of offensive production while reducing the runs allowed by 0.54. Pretty much a draw, but the bad part is if we could have maintained our 5.11 scoring average while holding the opposition to 4.79, we would have a runs per game advantage of 0.32 runs.

I'll leave it up to you to decide where the loss of runs came from, but (and beating a dead horse here) you might find it in Washington. A lot of pitchers have contiributed to allowing the opposition to score less runs, but no one from Washington can claim that.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

But, the end started on June 28th. No doubt about that.

Gainesville Red 09-15-2006 12:41 AM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
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Originally Posted by macro (Post 1160431)
Sadly, there is no "unless". It's over.

Yep. Sorry, I just don't believe anymore. I think it's over.:cry:

Rojo 09-15-2006 01:36 PM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WVRedsFan (Post 1160449)
It was over when the Reds headed to Milwaukee at 54-48 on July 28th and proceded to lose early and often after winning the first game. In fact, that's the watermark as they have gone 18-26 since. Death rattle stuff.

Before the AS break, the Reds were scoring 5.11 runs per game and allowing 5.33, a difference of 0.22 runs. They were one game over .500. Since the AS break they have averaged 4.35 runs and allowed an average of 4.79, a difference of 0.44 runs. In both cases the opponents were scoring more than us, but we've lost 0.76 runs per game of offensive production while reducing the runs allowed by 0.54. Pretty much a draw, but the bad part is if we could have maintained our 5.11 scoring average while holding the opposition to 4.79, we would have a runs per game advantage of 0.32 runs.

If I had to pick a moment when the wheels came off, it was that looooong game in Philly. EZ took two losses in less than 24 hours and hasn't seen daylight since. His demise hurt. For a stretch Elizardo was the bridge between Harang/Arroyo and the roster fodder pulling up the end of the rotation.

But no matter the parsing, its a .500 team, pre- and post-. We were running against the odds the whole way. I'm still curious as to why this team doesn't score more runs.

Ltlabner 09-15-2006 01:43 PM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
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Originally Posted by Rojo (Post 1160810)
If I had to pick a moment when the wheels came off, it was that looooong game in Philly. EZ took two losses in less than 24 hours and hasn't seen daylight since. His demise hurt. For a stretch Elizardo was the bridge between Harang/Arroyo and the roster fodder pulling up the end of the rotation.

I'd agree with you on this Rojo. Philly is when the wind really started to come out of their sails.

Matt700wlw 09-15-2006 03:50 PM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rojo (Post 1160368)
They're done kaput, finished, finito-benito, Gandhi, outta here, a ghost, a vapor, Nyet, nein, no, non, nicht,Adios, ciao, sayanora, -- Deee-nied. The fat lady's singing, Elvis has left the building, the train has left the station.

Unless......

The Cardinals fall apart and the Reds go on a tear.

The Wildcard isn't happening.

cincyinco 09-16-2006 04:37 AM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rojo (Post 1160810)
If I had to pick a moment when the wheels came off, it was that looooong game in Philly. EZ took two losses in less than 24 hours and hasn't seen daylight since. His demise hurt. For a stretch Elizardo was the bridge between Harang/Arroyo and the roster fodder pulling up the end of the rotation.

But no matter the parsing, its a .500 team, pre- and post-. We were running against the odds the whole way. I'm still curious as to why this team doesn't score more runs.

I disagree with this. I don't think we were a .500 team before Wayne came aboard. .500 for this team is major improvement IMO... sadly.

RedLegSuperStar 09-16-2006 07:18 AM

Re: Stick a fork in it....
 
I'm excited to see what happens this offseason. This season isn't ending the way we were hoping after the Reds spent 113 or so days atop the Wild Card and actually had tied St. Louis for the division lead. I think some still don't want to give up hope.. but its hard to think their will be a post season with this offense/defense and with Narrons famous line-ups.


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