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Willy 11-25-2006 03:45 PM
Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Per rotoworld

The Diamondbacks have reportedly acquired Doug Davis, Dana Eveland and David Krynzel from the Brewers for Johnny Estrada, Claudio Vargas and Greg Aquino.

Falls City Beer 11-25-2006 03:49 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy (Post 1199019)
Per rotoworld

The Diamondbacks have reportedly acquired Doug Davis, Dana Eveland and David Krynzel from the Brewers for Johnny Estrada, Claudio Vargas and Greg Aquino.
Dang. That sucks. The Reds could have matched that offer. Crap.

jmcclain19 11-25-2006 03:51 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Johnny Estrada & Damien Miller & JD Closser.

How many offensive catchers do the Brewers need?

flyer85 11-25-2006 03:55 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falls City Beer (Post 1199023)
Dang. That sucks. The Reds could have matched that offer. Crap.
he only seemed to pitch well against Cincy, this will hurt him.

Falls City Beer 11-25-2006 03:56 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
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Originally Posted by flyer85 (Post 1199031)
he only seemed to pitch well against Cincy, this will hurt him.
The Reds could certainly have used him at the back of the rotation. He is infinitely better than Milton and Lohse.

This is what I'm talking about when I say the Reds need to shore up the back end of the rotation--keeps the dropoff after Arroyo from being too dramatic.

flyer85 11-25-2006 04:01 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer (Post 1199033)
The Reds could certainly have used him at the back of the rotation. He is infinitely better than Milton and Lohse.
That may be true but I am surprised about Arizona wanting him, his BB rate and game may not transition well from more the pitcher friendly Miller to the BOB.

Falls City Beer 11-25-2006 04:02 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
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Originally Posted by flyer85 (Post 1199036)
That may be true but I am surprised about Arizona wanting him, his BB rate and game may not transition well from more the pitcher friendly Miller to the BOB.
Doesn't give up the longball too often. I'll go out on a very short limb and say Arizona is a very good team next year.

flyer85 11-25-2006 04:06 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falls City Beer (Post 1199037)
Doesn't give up the longball too often.
he'd better not because he get killed with all the runners he puts on base. Coming to a place like Cincy which would surely bump his HR rate could be a disaster.

I would like to see Lohse and Milton(especially) replaced, Davis would likely only be a minor improvement. Honestly I would rather have the arms of Vargas and Aquino.

Falls City Beer 11-25-2006 04:07 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyer85 (Post 1199040)
he'd better not because he get killed with all the runners he puts on base. Coming to a place like Cincy which would surely bump his HR rate could be a disaster.

I would like to see Lohse and Milton(especially) replaced, Davis would likely only be a minor improvement. Honestly I would rather have the arms of Vargas and Aquino.
Aquino, yes. Vargas? No thanks.

For whatever reason, Davis is tough to get great contact on. I don't think GAB would hurt Davis as much as Cincy's bullpen.

fewfirstchoice 11-25-2006 04:09 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Im very suprised that almost everyone on this board doesnt give Loshe any credit what so ever.He came over to Cincy last season and pitched pretty well most of the time.I believe Loshe will be a good 4 or 5 starter,he at least deserves a chance.

Falls City Beer 11-25-2006 04:10 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
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Originally Posted by fewfirstchoice (Post 1199042)
Im very suprised that almost everyone on this board doesnt give Loshe any credit what so ever.He came over to Cincy last season and pitched pretty well most of the time.I believe Loshe will be a good 4 or 5 starter,he at least deserves a chance.
Lohse is Brett Tomko. Except worse.

Falls City Beer 11-25-2006 04:28 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
For all those who like to ask: "Who would YOU target?"

Davis is one of them. (Jennings is another.)

westofyou 11-25-2006 06:57 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falls City Beer (Post 1199033)
The Reds could certainly have used him at the back of the rotation. He is infinitely better than Milton and Lohse.

This is what I'm talking about when I say the Reds need to shore up the back end of the rotation--keeps the dropoff after Arroyo from being too dramatic.
IIRC you predicted that Davis was going to have a better ERA at the end of the year then any Reds starter, this was in July and Arroyo was clipping along at 2.47.

He lost it control wise this year, maybe injury affected his mechanics? He dropped K's and picked up walks.

Falls City Beer 11-25-2006 07:10 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by westofyou (Post 1199084)
IIRC you predicted that Davis was going to have a better ERA at the end of the year then any Reds starter, this was in July and Arroyo was clipping along at 2.47.

He lost it control wise this year, maybe injury affected his mechanics? He dropped K's and picked up walks.
And for all his control issues, his OPSA was a very respectable .760, just .013 worse than Harang, with a better H/IP ratio than Aaron as well.

Doug's a very good pitcher--but I don't know the extent or the existence of any injury. If he's injured, then I wouldn't pursue him. But I suppose it's moot as Arizona's unlikely to re-trade him.

Chip R 11-25-2006 08:46 PM
Re: Brewers trade Doug Davis
 
Thank goodness he's out of our division.


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