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timmario66 01-30-2007 09:46 AM

Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
I'm sure this will get all the Marty haters riled up:

http://www.amnews.com/public_html/?m...15&format=html

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What about outfielder Adam Dunn (40 home runs, 92 runs-batted in in 2006)? Could he be the key?

Brennaman: "I am pretty close to giving up on Adam Dunn. I don't know if he is capable of changing his approach to the plate, based on what the count is, and can be happy with shortening his swing, hitting the ball the other way and showing a measure of discipline. I am at the point where I don't know if it can happen. He is a guy who drove in five runs in the month of September last year and didn't even get to 100 runs batted-in.

"People constantly ask if the club is trying to trade him. I think this team waited one year too long to try and trade him. If they had traded him after 2005, they would have got something good. I don't think there was a team in baseball that had any interest in him after last year.

"He is going to make $10 million this year. I get tired of people saying he hits 40 home runs and drives in 100 runs. Wonderful. This is a guy who should hit 50 plus home runs and should drive in 130 runs or more every single year. And he can't do it because he leads the world in strikeouts. I think he was overweight last year. He walks to his position. He walks off the field. You see no energy whatsoever and that disappoints the heck out of me."

westofyou 01-30-2007 09:52 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
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This is a guy who should hit 50 plus home runs and should drive in 130 runs or more every single year.
Code:

HOMERUNS                      YEAR    HR      RBI   
1    Barry Bonds              2001      73      137 
2    Mark McGwire            1998      70      147 
3    Sammy Sosa              1998      66      158 
4    Mark McGwire            1999      65      147 
5    Sammy Sosa              2001      64      160 
6    Sammy Sosa              1999      63      141 
7    Roger Maris              1961      61      142 
8    Babe Ruth                1927      60      164 
9    Babe Ruth                1921      59      171 
T10  Jimmie Foxx              1932      58      169 
T10  Ryan Howard              2006      58      149 
T10  Hank Greenberg          1938      58      146 
T13  Alex Rodriguez          2002      57      142 
T13  Luis Gonzalez            2001      57      142 
T15  Ken Griffey Jr.          1998      56      146 
T15  Ken Griffey Jr.          1997      56      147 
T15  Hack Wilson              1930      56      191 
T18  Babe Ruth                1928      54      142 
T18  David Ortiz              2006      54      137 
T18  Babe Ruth                1920      54      137 
T21  George Foster            1977      52      149 
T21  Alex Rodriguez          2001      52      135 
T21  Mickey Mantle            1956      52      130 
T24  Johnny Mize              1947      51      138 
T24  Cecil Fielder            1990      51      132 
T26  Sammy Sosa              2000      50      138 
T26  Jimmie Foxx              1938      50      175

NATIONAL LEAGUE

HOMERUNS                      YEAR    HR      RBI   
1    Barry Bonds              2001      73      137 
2    Mark McGwire            1998      70      147 
3    Sammy Sosa              1998      66      158 
4    Mark McGwire            1999      65      147 
5    Sammy Sosa              2001      64      160 
6    Sammy Sosa              1999      63      141 
7    Ryan Howard              2006      58      149 
8    Luis Gonzalez            2001      57      142 
9    Hack Wilson              1930      56      191 
10  George Foster            1977      52      149 
11  Johnny Mize              1947      51      138 
12  Sammy Sosa              2000      50      138 

Reds who have done it


HOMERUNS                      YEAR    HR      RBI   
1    George Foster            1977      52      149


membengal 01-30-2007 09:56 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
And...any hope of Marty being the least bit professional and even-handed from the booth calling the games when Dunn is up in 2007 is already gone. So much for wishing for a change from the past from him...

I missed the memo: since when are announcers required to "believe in" or state that they are close to "giving up on" players?

Mind-boggling. Every time I get the least bit excited for the spring, something in here crushes it. Now I know that first broadcast from Florida (a great day every March) will be sullied from the get-go with an early Marty broadside against a player he is "pretty close to giving up" on. Wonderful.

boognish 01-30-2007 09:59 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
The Reds would have to "give up" on a lot of guys if 50/130 was the measuring stick.

10 HR and 38 RBI would be easily attained if he sprinted out to his position? I think the two are mutually exclusive.

15fan 01-30-2007 10:02 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
"This is a guy who should hit 50 plus home runs and should drive in 130 runs or more every single year."

And when he's not smashing every single pitch he sees at least 750 feet, he needs to be working on cures for cancer, global warming and the national debt, as well as unlocking the secrets to cold fusion and time travel.

Raisor 01-30-2007 10:08 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
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Originally Posted by 15fan (Post 1234429)

And when he's not smashing every single pitch he sees at least 750 feet, he needs to be working on cures for cancer, global warming and the national debt, as well as unlocking the secrets to cold fusion and time travel.

That's what Jack Bauer and Puffy do on days off.

bounty37h 01-30-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
what, truth hurt? I dont see anything Marty said that I dont believe in as well. I like Dunn, havent gave up on him, but fully understand where Marty is coming from

George Anderson 01-30-2007 10:11 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boognish (Post 1234427)
The Reds would have to "give up" on a lot of guys if 50/130 was the measuring stick.

10 HR and 38 RBI would be easily attained if he sprinted out to his position? I think the two are mutually exclusive.

I think that not hustling to his position and to a greater degree being overweight doesnt make Dunn look very professional. Would dropping 20 pounds and hustling to his position get him to 50/130 ?? Maybe or maybe not, but I think being in top shape and hustling on the field would ultimately enhance his performance on the field.

Red Leader 01-30-2007 10:17 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
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Originally Posted by bounty37h (Post 1234436)
what, truth hurt? I dont see anything Marty said that I dont believe in as well. I like Dunn, havent gave up on him, but fully understand where Marty is coming from

That's the problem. Some people just aren't happy with what Adam Dunn brings to the table. Some people want Adam Dunn to be Adam Dunn, and Tony Gwynn. He's simply not that kind of ballplayer. If you don't like that, that's fine, and understandable, but then, you wouldn't be appreciating one of the better offensive players the Reds have had in a couple decades. What's so bad about Adam Dunn being Adam Dunn? Last time I checked not a whole lot of Reds had scored 100 runs and driven in nearly 100 runs like Dunn has almost every year. Not many players get on base at the frequency Dunn does. I'm not saying that Adam Dunn is a perfect player, that is by no means the case, but just because the guy doesn't turn into a Judy-hitter with 2 strikes you're going to give up on the guy? Give me a break.

RedsManRick 01-30-2007 10:17 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
You may or may not agree with Marty, but you have to like that he has an opinion he's actually willing to express.

HumnHilghtFreel 01-30-2007 10:19 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
I actually appreciate that he doesn't hold back the way he really feels about the team. He might not be overly optimistic, but the fact that he's hard on some guys because they aren't fulfilling their potential or on some issues with the team shows that he really cares about the team.

Joseph 01-30-2007 10:22 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
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Originally Posted by RedsManRick (Post 1234445)
You may or may not agree with Marty, but you have to like that he has an opinion he's actually willing to express.

I suppose to some degree its better than simply blowing smoke up our bums every time he gets on the radio, but at the same time Marty is a HoFer. He's been watching this game a long time and he should know how rare what his expectations are for a ball player to do even ONCE, much less EVERY YEAR.

CySeymour 01-30-2007 10:23 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
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And he can't do it because he leads the world in strikeouts.
Of course, Ryan Howard struckout 181 times last year. I guess he sucks, too.

westofyou 01-30-2007 10:24 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bounty37h (Post 1234436)
what, truth hurt? I dont see anything Marty said that I dont believe in as well. I like Dunn, havent gave up on him, but fully understand where Marty is coming from

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.

Einstein

Caveman Techie 01-30-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Q&A with Marty - comments on Dunn, pitching, and playoffs
 
Personally I like Marty. I like the fact that he dosen't pull any punches. However on this subject I just disagree with him. I have no problems with Dunn's approach at the plate as long as he keeps his OBP up there in the stratosphere.

The one area I would like to see some improvement on from Dunn is his fielding though.


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