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Unassisted 11-10-2007 11:08 AM

Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs....te=printpicart

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Hiring of Baker pleases Griffey
By C. Trent Rosecrans
Post staff reporter

LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Friday night Ken Griffey Sr. awarded his son a cup of orange sherbet with sprinkles - the same reward he got as a youth when his team won a game.

There was no baseball game in Louisville on Friday night, but Ken Griffey Jr. was given the first Living Legend Award by Louisville Slugger, the makers of the bats Griffey has used throughout his entire 19-year major league career.

"It didn't matter if I went 4-for-4 or 0-for-4, if my team won, I knew we were going for ice cream," Griffey Jr. said in a montage shown before he was awarded the honor at the Louisville Slugger Museum.

The company honored Griffey for his accumulation of 593 home runs and 2,558 hits in his career - all with the same black model C271.

Griffey was introduced by his father. Griffey Sr. used the company's model S216 throughout his long career and passed his down to his son while the younger Griffey was in his short stay in the minor leagues.

"The best players got the best equipment, and I got them because of my father," Griffey Jr. said.

He didn't need his dad's connections long, as Griffey Jr. played only 129 minor-league games before breaking into the big leagues at 19 and establishing himself as one of the game's all-time greats. A 13-time All-Star, member of the All-Century team and 1997 American League Most Valuable Player, Griffey ranks among baseball's all-time leaders in home runs (sixth), extra-base hits (15th with 1,545), RBIs (17th with 1,701) and grand slams (12th with 15).

"I knew he was going to be something special when he was 13 and I couldn't strike him out," Griffey Sr. said.

The younger Griffey said he was happy about the Reds naming Dusty Baker as the team's manager, but thinks the move will do more for the Reds than it will him.

"All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day," Griffey said. "He's going to help this organization top to bottom. He's going to have an influence on the front office, the minor leagues and the entire Cincinnati Reds organization. It's going to be good for the city of Cincinnati to see what can happen with a big-name manager, something it hasn't had since Lou Piniella."

The elder Griffey was more excited about the move. Griffey Sr. played against Dusty Baker in the '70s and '80s and has been friends with him since their playing days.

Baker called Griffey Sr. during the interview process, but Griffey Sr. - who is now a special consultant to general manager Wayne Krivsky - didn't expect the Reds to hire Baker. Griffey Sr. gave Baker a rundown on the entire Reds organization.

When Baker was hired, Griffey Sr. was excited for the future of the organization.

"I'm excited with Dusty in charge," Griffey Sr. said. "He's going to get the most out of them. It's a great hire for the Cincinnati Reds."

Griffey Jr. had similar glowing words for the team's decision to pick up the option on fellow outfielder Adam Dunn.

"So many people complain about what he does wrong instead of what the man does right," Griffey said. "He goes out there every day and plays hard."

Louisville Slugger presented the award for the first time on Friday and plans to continue the award in the future. A possible future recipient of the award, Eddie Murray, was on hand, as well as Reds chief operating officer John Allen and director of media relations Rob Butcher.

When Griffey Jr. was asked what it meant to be considered a "living legend," his father answered before he could.

"It means he's old," Griffey Sr. said.

Griffey Jr. said he still wants to play, despite the fact he'll turn 38 this month.

"I'll keep playing as long as I'm having fun," Griffey said. "I still look forward to going to the ballpark every day and playing. I'm still having fun, it's not like work."

TRF 11-10-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
I like Jr. I do. My heart wants him to retire a Red.

I guess nobody ever told him Davey Johnson and Jack McKeon were big name managers.

Chip R 11-11-2007 10:07 AM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
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Originally Posted by TRF (Post 1495451)
I like Jr. I do. My heart wants him to retire a Red.

I guess nobody ever told him Davey Johnson and Jack McKeon were big name managers.


Davey was. McKeon wasn't.

WVRedsFan 11-11-2007 02:04 PM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
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Originally Posted by Chip R (Post 1495500)
Davey was. McKeon wasn't.

Word.

TRF 11-12-2007 09:19 AM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
well i disagree. He had better success than Dusty, longer service time as a manager and a stint as GM with the Padres. He may not have been Davey Johnson big, but he was bigger than Lou when Lou was hired.

RANDY IN INDY 11-12-2007 09:43 AM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
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Originally Posted by TRF (Post 1495802)
well i disagree. He had better success than Dusty, longer service time as a manager and a stint as GM with the Padres. He may not have been Davey Johnson big, but he was bigger than Lou when Lou was hired.

Only in uniform pant size, but then, I'm not much of a Jack McKeon fan.

Chip R 11-12-2007 09:43 AM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
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Originally Posted by TRF (Post 1495802)
well i disagree. He had better success than Dusty, longer service time as a manager and a stint as GM with the Padres. He may not have been Davey Johnson big, but he was bigger than Lou when Lou was hired.


He was fired in K.C. had a short stint in OAK and a few years in S.D. Not once did he make the playoffs. He had a reputation as a good GM but he was hardly a name as a manager. And, to be fair, Lou wasn't that big of a name at the time either. He was Yankees manager for a time but who wasn't? His rep at the time was more as a player than as a manager.

RANDY IN INDY 11-12-2007 09:53 AM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
Trader Jack's moves in the front office definitely outranked his moves in the dugout at that time.

westofyou 11-12-2007 09:54 AM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
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Originally Posted by RANDY IN CHAR NC (Post 1495805)
Only in uniform pant size, but then, I'm not much of a Jack McKeon fan.

Me either, Jack was loitering in the hall of the Reds organization for five years before he got the job, and that was because at the time he was about the only guy left in the organization with any experience. The team was strapped badly for cash and Marge was starting to whine loud about it, Jack was a quick fix for a season gone astray and was seen more of a calming influence then a solution. Charm, success with tweeners (Stynes, Perez, Nunnley) enabled him to work is way into the office full time.

Chip R 11-12-2007 09:59 AM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
Getting things back on topic, I wonder if Jr. will be OK if Big Dust doesn't write his name in the lineup every day. Day game after a night game, 6th game of a 10 game road trip, etc.

redsmetz 11-12-2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chip R (Post 1495810)
Getting things back on topic, I wonder if Jr. will be OK if Big Dust doesn't write his name in the lineup every day. Day game after a night game, 6th game of a 10 game road trip, etc.

Is it possible Griffey's trying to send a message that he's available as much as the team needs him. I didn't get much of a sense that he was dissatisfied with his playing time this year, did you?

joe

Unassisted 11-12-2007 10:11 AM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
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Originally Posted by redsmetz (Post 1495811)
I didn't get much of a sense that he was dissatisfied with his playing time this year, did you?

There were quotes posted previously that indicated he wasn't happy being moved out of CF. This quote was the first inkling that he might not be happy in something less than a starting role.

What a quote on paper unfortunately doesn't capture is the way he said this and the intent implied behind it. It may have been offered innocently, with a chuckle, to convey that Dusty would have nothing to fear from the team's senior outfielder.

Reds1 11-12-2007 12:23 PM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
I don't know if its' possible, but to see him here 3-4 years with 30+ HRS and possibly see 700 would be a beautiful thing.

Chip R 11-12-2007 02:19 PM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
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Originally Posted by redsmetz (Post 1495811)
Is it possible Griffey's trying to send a message that he's available as much as the team needs him. I didn't get much of a sense that he was dissatisfied with his playing time this year, did you?

joe


Not at all. But they played him pretty much every day unless he was sick. Down the stretch he was playing all the time until he got hurt in CHI. Jr. has always said that he wants to play every day. That quote doesn't lead me to think anything different. That's admirable he wants to play all the time and I think he should play most of the time. But he may be better off if he took a day or two off a week. I would hate to see him make a big deal out of it if he does rest a couple of times a week. However, if any manager can get Jr. to accept not playing every day, it would probably be Dusty.

KronoRed 11-12-2007 02:45 PM

Re: Junior on Dusty: "All he has to do is put my name in the lineup every day"
 
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Originally Posted by Reds1 (Post 1495849)
I don't know if its' possible, but to see him here 3-4 years with 30+ HRS and possibly see 700 would be a beautiful thing.

I think it's more possible then you think.

Reds need pitching, they have a surplus of OF's but 2 of them won't bring back the kings ransom they need, however Bruce and Hamilton might.


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