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icehole3 03-02-2010 04:01 AM

Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
I like Bailey's stuff the best

Ron Madden 03-02-2010 04:15 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
George Culver threw a no-hitter.

So I guess anyone of the above can too.

icehole3 03-02-2010 04:32 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
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Originally Posted by Ron Madden (Post 2030764)
George Culver threw a no-hitter.

So I guess anyone of the above can too.

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Ron Madden 03-02-2010 04:33 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
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Originally Posted by icehole3 (Post 2030767)

Mornin'.

thatcoolguy_22 03-02-2010 04:40 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
Bailey's new splitter will lead to enough grounders to give him a good head start on the no-no

reds1869 03-02-2010 06:49 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
Homer could easily throw a no hitter during his career.

Always Red 03-02-2010 07:29 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
I was lucky enough to sit in the scout seats behind home plate for this game:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00609050.shtml

Arroyo was masterful in the 3 hit shutout of the Giants; the ball was moving all over the place, and he was spotting it. It was the most fun I've had at the ballpark in years, and one of the prettiest games I have ever seen pitched.

When Arroyo is on, he could throw a no-no. Cueto and Homer have more electric stuff, of course.

redsmetz 03-02-2010 07:57 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
I agree with AlwaysRed. I was surprised that Arroyo wasn't an option. He was my first thought.

redsmetz 03-02-2010 08:08 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
BTW, we're overdue for a no-hitter. It's been over 20 years since Browning threw his perfect game. The franchise has never gone that long without a no-hitter. Prior to this was 19 years from Hod Eller tossing one in May, 1919 until Vandy's back to back no-hitters. The next longest stretch was 18 years from Blackwell's no-hitter in June 1947 (and he almost duplicated Vander Meer's fit in the next game) until Jim Maloney threw his first one in August, 1965. No to jinx anyone, but I think we'll get one this year.

Likewise, it's been almost forty years since we've had a no-hitter thrown against us when Rick Wise did it on 6/23/71. Of course, Ken Holtzman threw one against us nearly three weeks earlier (6/3/71).

oneupper 03-02-2010 08:17 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
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Originally Posted by redsmetz (Post 2030788)
BTW, we're overdue for a no-hitter. It's been over 20 years since Browning threw his perfect game. The franchise has never gone that long without a no-hitter. Prior to this was 19 years from Hod Eller tossing one in May, 1919 until Vandy's back to back no-hitters. The next longest stretch was 18 years from Blackwell's no-hitter in June 1947 (and he almost duplicated Vander Meer's fit in the next game) until Jim Maloney threw his first one in August, 1965. No to jinx anyone, but I think we'll get one this year.

Likewise, it's been almost forty years since we've had a no-hitter thrown against us when Rick Wise did it on 6/23/71. Of course, Ken Holtzman threw one against us nearly three weeks earlier (6/3/71).

The current team would appear to be quite vulnerable to a no-no. If I had to wager, I'd bet the second streak is more likely to be broken.

bucksfan2 03-02-2010 08:26 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
Bailey and Cueto have both had no hit kinds of stuff during games. I give Bailey the nod because I think he has the frame to work deeper into games. But at the same time I have seen games in which Cueto was masterful.

cumberlandreds 03-02-2010 08:48 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redsmetz (Post 2030788)
BTW, we're overdue for a no-hitter. It's been over 20 years since Browning threw his perfect game. The franchise has never gone that long without a no-hitter. Prior to this was 19 years from Hod Eller tossing one in May, 1919 until Vandy's back to back no-hitters. The next longest stretch was 18 years from Blackwell's no-hitter in June 1947 (and he almost duplicated Vander Meer's fit in the next game) until Jim Maloney threw his first one in August, 1965. No to jinx anyone, but I think we'll get one this year.

Likewise, it's been almost forty years since we've had a no-hitter thrown against us when Rick Wise did it on 6/23/71. Of course, Ken Holtzman threw one against us nearly three weeks earlier (6/3/71).

It's amazing the Reds haven't had a no hitter thrown against them in nearly 40 years. As you can see by my signature line,1971 was the first season I followed the Reds and I can remember listening to both of those games. Wise hit 2 home runs to boot in his no-no. I would think 40 years would be near a record of not having a no hitter thrown against you. It also shows you how much luck is involved in getting one.

TRF 03-02-2010 09:40 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
I picked Cueto as I think he has perfect game stuff. he had low BB rates in the minors, good K rates and of course the D behind him is improved (maybe... not sold on SS being improved).

membengal 03-02-2010 09:45 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
Bailey. If he masters the split, and keeps improving command of a fastball that sits around 94 and can go higher, to go with that curve, he's got that kind of stuff.

lollipopcurve 03-02-2010 09:54 AM

Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no?
 
Chapman in September.


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