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Who Dey Time 04-27-2012 03:08 PM

Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Rebound Friday.....

Cozart SS
Stubbs CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Ludwick LF
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Mesoraco C
Leake P

texasdave 04-27-2012 04:06 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
I understand that Dusty Baker has no use for Chris Heisey but come on now. Jay Bruce is 1 for 26 against Wandy Rodriguez with 13 Ks. Rodriguez can just throw his glove out on the mound and get Bruce out. Heisey is 3 for 8 with a double and a homer. I guess you might say Jay is due. I don't know. Rodriguez has that big lefty curve.

malcontent 04-27-2012 04:14 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texasdave (Post 2578958)
I understand that Dusty Baker has no use for Chris Heisey but come on now. Jay Bruce is 1 for 26 against Wandy Rodriguez with 13 Ks. Rodriguez can just throw his glove out on the mound and get Bruce out. Heisey is 3 for 8 with a double and a homer. I guess you might say Jay is due. I don't know. Rodriguez has that big lefty curve.

That is what I would label a big-time...no....HUGE mistake in lineup construction.

Unless we learn that Heisey is out for some reason.....

OTOH, maybe it just came to Baker.

Epiphanies are impossible to explain. And almost as difficult to resist.

Big Red Hoss 04-27-2012 04:16 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Dave you are spot on. This is my biggest problem with dusty. Everyone says hes a "feelings" and "Match up" guy. Then he goes and does something like this. We is he not consistant in these decisions.

On the flip side bruce was Since coming home. Maybe he is in the begining of his hot streak. Riden while hes hot I guess.

bigredmechanism 04-27-2012 04:24 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Code:

BATTER          AB        H        2B        3B        HR        RBI        BB        SO        AVG        OBP        SLG        OPS
Jay Bruce  26        1        0        0        0        0        0        13        .038        .038        .038        .077

Yeesh. Might be better for him to sit this one.

malcontent 04-27-2012 04:25 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Just a terrible choice.

Unless Heisey is out for another reason...

texasdave 04-27-2012 04:34 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Reds need to rough Wandy up. You don't want to claw your way back to .500 only to start dropping back again. You would think Cueto and Latos would have the edge in the next two game though. Play Ball.

mu4103 04-27-2012 04:37 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malcontent (Post 2578960)
That is what I would label a big-time...no....HUGE mistake in lineup construction.

Unless we learn that Heisey is out for some reason.....

OTOH, maybe it just came to Baker.

Epiphanies are impossible to explain. And almost as difficult to resist.

Everybody has their own personality and their own coaching style, but I have watched Dusty long enough to know a couple of things. I will not comment on his use of players - only that when Dusty starts trusting his gut feelings and epiphanies he is making a mistake. He does not have that type of personality and he is not that type of manager. Sometimes you need to know who you are and I don't think even after years of coaching, that Dusty knows who he is.

In a positive sense here is how I would sum up Dusty. He is an offensive minded manager who is able to allow talent to emerge from talented players. He is able to use his skills as a former player to foster hitting. He is also able to cultivate pitching, but has a knack for using it ineffectively.

mu4103 04-27-2012 04:38 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malcontent (Post 2578966)
Just a terrible choice.

Unless Heisey is out for another reason...

I doubt the thought ever even crossed Dusty's mind.

malcontent 04-27-2012 04:53 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mu4103 (Post 2578976)
I doubt the thought ever even crossed Dusty's mind.

I guess not.

But he's seen Bruce flail away during all of those 26 AB, I think.

What part of "utter futility" doesn't he understand?

Red Raindog 04-27-2012 05:30 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malcontent (Post 2578982)
I guess not.

But he's seen Bruce flail away during all of those 26 AB, I think.

What part of "utter futility" doesn't he understand?

+1

New York Red 04-27-2012 07:09 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
It seems like every game we're facing either a pitcher who is on fire or a pitcher who has owned us historically. Or in some cases, like today, both.

New York Red 04-27-2012 07:11 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigredmechanism (Post 2578965)
Code:

BATTER          AB        H        2B        3B        HR        RBI        BB        SO        AVG        OBP        SLG        OPS
Jay Bruce  26        1        0        0        0        0        0        13        .038        .038        .038        .077

Yeesh. Might be better for him to sit this one.

That has to be one of the worst batter vs pitcher splits of all current players with a minimum of 26 AB's. That's so bad it has to be a typo. Wow.

New York Red 04-27-2012 07:14 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Easy first for Leake.

Big Red Hoss 04-27-2012 07:17 PM

Re: Reds vs. Astros Friday 4/27
 
Good start.


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