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After the dealings this past winter, I was afraid that it would take two or maybe three years to recover. 've been kind of struck this year about how much talent there seems to be in the farm system (especially in the lower levels.
I know there will be the normal attrition: 6ht year FAs, some guys dealt, some guys going to the Reds, some being released and I know there will be addition through signings trades and waiver pickups for AAAA and filler types. I think there's a good chance that the Reds could fill most of their levels Louisville to Billings with guys originally drafted by the Reds (I realize a few listed are from deals or waiver pickups). I didn't include anyone that may come over from the DSL or as of yet unsigned 2012 draft picks. Louisville CF Ryan LeMarre SS Didi Gregorious 3B Henry Rodriguez DH Neftali Soto 1B Beau Mills 3B David Vidal LF Denis Phipps RF Josh Feldhauer CA Mark Fleury Cody Puckett Miguel Rojas Andrew Means Felix Perez Bill Reinhardt Brian Peacock S1 Daniel Corcino S2 Kyle Lotzkar S3 Tony Cingrani (L) S4 JC Sulbaran S5 JJ Hoover LR Pedro Villareal MR Travis Webb MR Winfrin Obispo MR Joe Krebs (L) MR Josh Judy RS Nick Christiani LS Donnie Joseph (L) CL Jordan Smith Pensacola SS Billy Hamilton CF Theo Bowe 2B Devin Lohman 1B David Lutz DH Travis mattair RF Yordanys Perez LF Bryson Smith 3B Brodie Greene CA Tucker Barnhart Niko Vazquez Jefrey Siera Steve Selsky Stephen Hunt Chris Berset S1 Chad Rogers S2 Josh Smith S3 Justice French S4 Dan Renken S5 Tim Crabbe LR Justin Freeman MR Blaine Howell (L) MR Mark Serrano MR Wilkin De La Rosa (L) MR Brian Pearl RS Curtis Partch LS Chris Manno (L) CL Drew Hayes Bakersfield SS Juan Perez 2B Ryan Wright CF Yorman Rodriguez DH Sean Buckley RF Kyle Waldrop LF Juan Duran 3B Junior Arias 1B Dominic D'Anna CA Yovan Gonzalez Brandon Dailey Josef Terry Jeff Gelalich Juan Silva Danny Visioso S1 Jacob Johnson S2 Rhadames Quezada S3 Tanner Robles (L) S4 Daniel Tuttle S5 Carlos Gonzalez LR Pat Doyle MR Dan Wolford MR Michael Griffin MR Chris Joyce (L) MR El'Hajj Muhammad RS Carlos Contreras LS Kyle McMyne (L) CL Brooks Pinkard Dayton CF Beau Amaral 2B Sammy Diaz LF Daniel Pigott 1B Robert Maddox DH Carlos Sanchez 3B Robert Ramirez RF Jonathan Reynoso CA Fray Sosa SS Brian Peterson Taylor Wrenn Jon Matthews Bryan Arias Jhimmy Lopez Spencer Dickson Brennan May Nick O'Shea Julio Morillo Wagner Gomez S1 Wes Mugarian S2 Drew Cisco S3 Ishmael Guillon (L) S4 Sal Romano S5 Stalin Gerson LR James Allen MR Joel Bender (L) MR Dan Jensen MR Cole Green MR Nolan Becker (L) RS Alejandro Chacin LS Nick Routt (L) CL Matt Wiley Billings CF Elliott Hargreaves 2B Ty Washington 3B Tanner Rahier LF Gabe Rosa RF Jesse Winker DH Sean Mejias-Brean 1B Argenis Aldazoro CA Joe Hudson SS Humberto Valor Avain Rachal Ronald Bueno Jonathan Reynoso Nick Benadetto Wilfred Estevez Bryan Arias Porciano Flores Daniel Paula Josh Kennelly S1 Robert Stephenson S2 Nick Travieso S3 Amir Garrett (L) S4 Jon Moscot S5 Mitch Clarke (L) S6 Mason Felt (L) LR Vaugn Covington LR Jose Williams MR Michael Denhardt MR Ben Klimsch MR Wandy Peralta (L) MR Abel De Los Santos MR Carlos Ramos R7 Jose Ameczuca L7 Jordan Remer (L) R8 Jesus Adames L8 Richard McCaffrey (L) CL Michael Salter Position Players not listed Dioner Navarro Corky Miller Mike Costanzo Paul Janish Daryl Jones Danny Dorn Chris Valaika Kris Negron Joe Gathright (Goodyear) Daniel Paula Pitchers not listed Scott Carroll Ryan Feierabend Carlos Fisher Sean Gallagher Tim Gustafson Chad Reineke Brett Tomlo Kanekoa Texiera Luis Aitano Josh Ravin Andrew Brackman Ryan Keil Ryan Kemp Jamie Walczak (Goodyear) Kevin Arrico Pedro Diaz Nick Fleece Jose Guzman Robert Lewis-Walker Austin Muehring Jonathan Perez Longi Pineda Mike Saunders Weleen Taveras Jackson Stephens |
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Why would you have Hoover starting when all he's done this year is relieve while Pedro Villarreal has held his own in Louisville?
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Assuming none of the free-agents-to-be are resigned, this is about how I see it shaking out next year:
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Cingrani back in AA to start 2013? No chance if he continues to pitch like he has in AA so far-- 2/3 as many hits as IP with a K rate over 11.5 and a 2.15 ERA will move him up. (The new-found confidence he apparently has in his slider should also pay dividends.)
Louisville's rotation will be stacked, assuming no deals: Corcino Cingrani Lotzkar Sulburan Villareal Upside, upside, upside. |
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Cingrani's secondary stuff plays up because his fastball has good movement. He doesn't need a great slider, just an average one. It does him no good to dominate AA with two pitches-- he needs to go to Louisville and pitch against those AAAA guys that can mash a fastball with movement to see how he stacks up.
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I was just thinking it'd be nice if he faced some of the hitters multiple times. There's no need to rush him.
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Is the guy you've got listed as Aldi Guzman the same as Argenis Aldazoro? I know they changed his name on the roster a couple of times. Kinda confusing. Or is Guzman injured?
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My comments: 1. I think Cingrani has the whole second half of this season to continue to hone his craft and work on secondary stuff in AA. I think he begins 2013 in AAA along with the rest of the stacked rotation Scrap cited. 2. I think LaMarre would get a look at a backup spot in Cincy before Phipps, but I'm not sure if either starts 2013 with the big club. 3. Lutz has got to stay in LF if he has a future in this organization. I'd like to see him playing there in Pensacola right now, but definitely in 2013 (over someone like Perez). 4. I think Amaral plays CF in Dayton next year, with Winker in RF and someone else in LF. I think Gelalich goes to Bakersfield to play RF (I think he plays out this season in Dayton), with some combination of Yorman/Bowe in CF next year in Bakersfield. 5. Obviously a hotly debated topic, but don't be surprised to see Hamilton in CF next year- especially if it's being occupied by a non-prospect like Bryson Smith. He may move, he may not- but don't be surprised either way. 6. Where are Seth Mejias-Brean and Gabe Rosa? Have to think Rosa is starting in Dayton next year, either at 3B or in the OF (if Rahier gets bumped to Dayton) 7. I think Felt will spend another year in rookie ball. As I mentioned on another thread, I think Travieso could make the jump to Dayton but all the other HS pitchers likely spend another year in Rookie League. 8. I wonder if Duran repeats Bakersfield for another year, next to his fellow international signee enigma Yorman Rodriguez. Who knows- to make room, maybe someone like Kyle Waldrop jumps a level? 9. Langfield (depending on whether he's a starter or reliever), Guillon and possibly even Garrett could easily sneak into the Dayton rotation next year. Garrett could also be destined for another year in Rookie Ball. Gotta love the way the Louisville and Dayton rotations are shaping up. 10. I think Hoover and Joseph could and should get a shot to stick with the big club in ST next year. Could say the same for Henry Rodriguez at 3B (and backup 1B/2B). |
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As far as Billy goes, I think his ultimate position is decided by Stubbs and Cozart which one do you want to keep?
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And what's more valuable.......relievers or starters? Man, I'd love to see a Louisville rotation of Corcino, Cingrani, Lotzkar, Sulbaran, Hoover and/or Villareal. If they rose to the occasion, Reds would be in great position on the trade front.........either by trading a major league starter or one or two of these guys. Definitely wish Lutz could make it to Louisville next year in LF. And definitely want Hamilton playing CF at Pensacola. Cross my fingers. |
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