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cumberlandreds 08-20-2012 02:33 PM

8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
I don't know about this lineup. Seems like we are raising the white flag on this game. No Ludwick or Frazier. :confused: Go getem Leake.

1. Zack Cozart (R) SS
2. Chris Heisey (R) CF
3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
4. Jay Bruce (L) RF
5. Scott Rolen (R) 3B
6. Xavier Paul (L) LF
7. Miguel Cairo (R) 1B
8. Devin Mesoraco (R) C
9. Mike Leake (R) P

Homer Bailey 08-20-2012 02:39 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
Cumberland, please post the real lineup when it's ready. I laughed at your joke though!


(*checks twitter*)

Oh.

Tom Servo 08-20-2012 02:54 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
That lineup would look a lot better if it had Lyle Overbay (or a similar player) instead of Miguel Cairo playing 1B.

cumberlandreds 08-20-2012 02:59 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
The Phightin' Phils lineup:

1. Jimmy Rollins (S) SS
2. Juan Pierre (L) LF
3. Chase Utley (L) 2B
4. Ryan Howard (L) 1B
5. John Mayberry (R) CF
6. Domonic Brown (L) RF
7. Placido Polanco (R) 3B
8. Erik Kratz (R) C
9. Roy Halladay (R) P

traderumor 08-20-2012 03:01 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
I think just trying to not wear out key guys. I did see that Ludwick is 0 for 9 vs. Halladay, so there's one excuse ;)

westofyou 08-20-2012 03:16 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Servo (Post 2709256)
That lineup would look a lot better if it had Lyle Overbay (or a similar player) instead of Miguel Cairo playing 1B.

Lyle Overbay the Mike Hargrove of this generation.

Kc61 08-20-2012 03:34 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
Guessing Dusty doesn't want Frazier, a rookie, to have to cope with Halladay. Rather he's giving Todd a needed rest. Cairo hit well this weekend he'd rather give the veteran a chance against Halladay.

(Cozart, also a rookie, rested one game this weekend, he's in for defense with Leake pitching.)

Not agreeing, just guessing Dusty's thought process on Frazier.

Similarly, I think Dusty is resting Stubbs as unlikely to hit Halladay. As for Ludwick, Dusty rests him often and XMan gets a shot as a reward for the big hit yesterday.

As far as I can try to read the manager's mind. . . .

klw 08-20-2012 04:23 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
From Sheldon

http://marksheldon.mlblogs.com/
Quote:

*Miguel Cairo is 5-for-15 lifetime vs. Halladay, Xavier Paul is 2-for-5 and Chris Heisey is 0-for-1, while Drew Stubbs is 3-for-12 and Todd Frazier is 0-for-1. I’m sure the matchups play a part in the manager’s decisions to feature the lineup.
Should be a nice strong bench tonight.

mbgrayson 08-20-2012 04:29 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kc61 (Post 2709285)
Guessing Dusty doesn't want Frazier, a rookie, to have to cope with Halladay. Rather he's giving Todd a needed rest. Cairo hit well this weekend he'd rather give the veteran a chance against Halladay.

(Cozart, also a rookie, rested one game this weekend, he's in for defense with Leake pitching.)

Not agreeing, just guessing Dusty's thought process on Frazier.

Similarly, I think Dusty is resting Stubbs as unlikely to hit Halladay. As for Ludwick, Dusty rests him often and XMan gets a shot as a reward for the big hit yesterday.

As far as I can try to read the manager's mind. . . .

I certainly think Dusty has factored in the need for rest with playing pitcher/hitter percentages.

But to me, it just comes down to the Zen of Dusty. And with the Reds record in 2012, I will defer any lineup criticism at this point.

REDREAD 08-20-2012 04:31 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
oh well, at least Rolen is playing.. I thought he'd get the day off today.

The nice thing about getting Votto back is that Frasier can go back to starting on a lot of these "rest days", as opposed to Cairo/Paul/Heisey.

Not complaining about the lineup.. a little disappointed, but I accept it :)

Tom Servo 08-20-2012 07:02 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
Tough weak for Scotty. First off to Philadelphia, than gets to play his other old team the Cardinals again. At least he doesn't have to go back to Toronto. ;)

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1283659884

Matt700wlw 08-20-2012 07:03 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
The Phillies may be having a bad year, but being able to run Halladay, Hamels, and Lee out there is still as legit as it gets.

Kc61 08-20-2012 07:08 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
Cozart singles, no-hitter off the table.

Matt700wlw 08-20-2012 07:08 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
Good start :)

Kc61 08-20-2012 07:11 PM

Re: 8/20/2012 Reds at Phillies
 
Heisey singles to left.

Great matchup for Heisey, Halladay always near the plate, Heisey always swinging.


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