Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
HokieRed
Given who's at the plate and Phillips next, he should have had a take.
Considering the pitcher has walked about 7 guys this year and was sure to throw a strike. Which he did and Paul stung it. It happens.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
cincrazy
He was just throwing 100 an outing or two ago. And was throwing 98 tonight. So a few pitches were 94. Who cares? Means nothing. Maybe he's just tired.
no..they mentioned it has been several outings since he hit 100. Going to 94 is a big deal. If he normally threw 90 and was down to 81 we all would be saying what the heck was wrong...same thing.
There is such a thing as the dead arm syndrome... How is he tired? Not pitched since Tuesday night.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
kaldaniels
Means nothing? I'm not panicking but certainly the situation needs to be monitored.
As Brutus stated, if this turns into a trend, then you run some tests. Otherwise it's not a big deal.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Brutus
The doomsday scenarios.
Losing two of three to the Astros? Stubbs saved them a month ago or else they could be 3-4 against this ragtag outfit in the last three series. For some reason the Astros just seem to be causing us (and only us) unnecessary worry recently.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
cincrazy
As Brutus stated, if this turns into a trend, then you run some tests. Otherwise it's not a big deal.
I say with such an important player, you run them now.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
Red in Chicago
What is the Reds record against the Astros this year?
Now 9-4 for the year.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
We are all Brewer fans tonight. They are about to get started.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
oregonred
Losing two of three to the Astros? Stubbs saved them a month ago or else they could be 3-4 against this ragtag outfit in the last three series. For some reason the Astros just seem to be causing us (and only us) unnecessary worry recently.
This. I've said it before, and I still do think the Reds can beat any team in the NL. But when you can't take care of business against Houston, it makes me begin to really doubt if you can put away a team like Washington or San Francisco when it really matters.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Wonderful Monds
I say with such an important player, you run them now.
Really? Over one game? He was topping out at 98. I don't think that screams emergency. If he was throwing 92 and topping out at 94 like he was last year for a stretch, I'd be a lot more worried.
Bottom line: we're up 8 (pending outcome of Cards game tonight) with 24 to play. Pretty good shape I'd say. This loss sucks. But in the long run, probably means nothing.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
George Foster
no..they mentioned it has been several outings since he hit 100. Going to 94 is a big deal. If he normally threw 90 and was down to 81 we all would be saying what the heck was wrong...same thing.
There is such a thing as the dead arm syndrome... How is he tired? Not pitched since Tuesday night.
This has been the case all year. Chapman has been hitting higher velocities after pitching on a second straight or third straight appearance. His velocity has been lower with several days off. He's only pitched 7 times in the last three weeks. It's possible that all the time off has caused him to have a harder time getting up near 100.
By the way, Chapman's average speed on Tuesday was 98 MPH with a max of 100.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
Tom Servo
This. I've said it before, and I still do think the Reds can beat any team in the NL. But when you can't take care of business against Houston, it makes me begin to really doubt if you can put away a team like Washington or San Francisco when it really matters.
I remember a few years ago when Tampa still sucked, and they had the Yanks number. That's hardly the case here. We're 9-4 against Houston. Pretty solid lol. Chances are we win the next two games. You guys really just need to take a deep breath. You can't just assume we're going to sweep any team, no matter how bad they are.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
cincrazy
As Brutus stated, if this turns into a trend, then you run some tests. Otherwise it's not a big deal.
I agree no tests needed now...
But I just went threw and watched the pitch sequence again. He was throwing 96-98 pre-home run.
But after it was (off speed included) 95, 94, 84, 94, 93, 94, 84, 83
May have been just mental?
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
Hopefully we are getting our crappy week in September/October out of our system.
Regarding Chapman. We're Cincinnati professional sports fans, we've been conditioned to go from high to whale dung low in short order the past 20+ years.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Brutus
This has been the case all year. Chapman has been hitting higher velocities after pitching on a second straight or third straight appearance. His velocity has been lower with several days off. He's only pitched 7 times in the last three weeks. It's possible that all the time off has caused him to have a harder time getting up near 100.
By the way, Chapman's average speed on Tuesday was 98 MPH with a max of 100.
Chris Welsh doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. I think he's a big part of the reason so many people are panicking. Chapman was just throwing 100 this week, so I don't know what games Welsh has been watching.
Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds
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Originally Posted by
oregonred
Losing two of three to the Astros? Stubbs saved them a month ago or else they could be 3-4 against this ragtag outfit in the last three series. For some reason the Astros just seem to be causing us (and only us) unnecessary worry recently.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, what a Merry Christmas we'd have.
I was more referring to the doomsday scenarios about Chapman. That said, yeah for some reason they've been struggling with Houston. I'm not happy about it, but it's September and they're 28 games over .500. If there were truly major issues to be concerned about, they would have manifested themselves sooner than six months into the season.