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Wonderful Monds 09-22-2012 02:56 PM

Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
No wonder this team keeps collapsing.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pirates...lb-joke--.html

SirFelixCat 09-22-2012 03:53 PM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
WTF?

Why would you risk BASEBALL players to this? I'm all for discipline and such (being a Marine myself) but seriously, this is just dumb.

Guess we shouldn't be surprised w/ the Pirates, but wow.

Steve4192 09-22-2012 04:37 PM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
Sounds like someone watches too much FX network, home of 'Sons of Anarchy' and the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Seriously though, this sounds like some corporate team-building psycho-babble gone horribly awry. Like they picked imagery that they imagined young men would find empowering (the renegade individualist biker, the Osama Bin Laden killing Seal Team Six, etc.) and tried to create some stupid 'us against the world' environment in their minor leagues. What they got instead was those same minor leaguers looking at their organization and saying 'these guys are fricking lunatics'.

Wonderful Monds 09-22-2012 05:46 PM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve4192 (Post 2740903)
Sounds like someone watches too much FX network, home of 'Sons of Anarchy' and the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Seriously though, this sounds like some corporate team-building psycho-babble gone horribly awry. Like they picked imagery that they imagined young men would find empowering (the renegade individualist biker, the Osama Bin Laden killing Seal Team Six, etc.) and tried to create some stupid 'us against the world' environment in their minor leagues. What they got instead was those same minor leaguers looking at their organization and saying 'these guys are fricking lunatics'.

Yeah, you would think that by the time James Taillon engaging another player in combat got written into the plans this whole thing would get shot down, but they're the Pittsburgh Pirates for a reason I guess.

Larkin Fan 09-22-2012 07:46 PM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
And the Pirates wonder why they're a laughing stock?

traderumor 09-22-2012 07:53 PM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
Wow. And we thought DanO's "take a strike" development strategy was whack.

Sounds like something the Landry Cowboys regime would have tried right after the ballet lessons.

Superdude 09-22-2012 08:26 PM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
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Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds (Post 2741003)
Yeah, you would think that by the time James Taillon engaging another player in combat got written into the plans this whole thing would get shot down, but they're the Pittsburgh Pirates for a reason I guess.

This is just hilarious. I can't even imagine going through with it as a big ticket draft pick like Taillon. I would literally just laugh and go home and take a nap.

REDblooded 09-23-2012 01:39 AM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
30 years ago they would have sucked it up and taken something away from it...

Tom Servo 09-23-2012 02:03 AM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
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Originally Posted by REDblooded (Post 2741589)
30 years ago they would have sucked it up and taken something away from it...

Or they would have done it and then done a bunch of lines of coke and partied all night.

cincinnati chili 09-23-2012 03:35 AM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
I wonder if Mark Appel got wind of this and whether it played into his decision not to sign. He was such a baby about the Pirates drafting him, but maybe he (and Boras) knew something about the current management of the Pirates that we didn't, i.e. they're [bleeping] crazy.

The Operator 09-23-2012 04:06 AM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
Just wow. And I agree with Superdude, I'm pretty sure if I was Taillon I would have said "umm, no." and dared them to suspend or release me. The players really should stand up to this nonsense.

Wonderful Monds 09-23-2012 04:08 AM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Servo (Post 2741592)
Or they would have done it and then done a bunch of lines of coke and partied all night.

The eighties were simpler times.

Crumbley 09-23-2012 09:22 AM

This news makes me a lot less concerned about the Pirates going forward. They're run by lunatics.

lollipopcurve 09-23-2012 10:15 AM

Re: Pirates' weird Navy SEALS training doesn't go over well with top prospects
 
Quote:

This news makes me a lot less concerned about the Pirates going forward. They're run by lunatics.
Huntington, their GM, was a lieutenant in Cleveland before being hired in Pittsburgh. Many felt this made him eminently qualified because Cleveland was all about "advanced metrics" and used proprietary software.

westofyou 09-23-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lollipopcurve (Post 2741670)
Huntington, their GM, was a lieutenant in Cleveland before being hired in Pittsburgh. Many felt this made him eminently qualified because Cleveland was all about "advanced metrics" and used proprietary software.

Many here at RZ had envy for both those franchises too


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