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Brutus 09-23-2012 05:05 PM

Set your playoff rotation
 
For both a possible series against San Francisco or the wildcard

San Fran:

Game 1 (Latos)
Game 2 (Bailey)
Game 3 (Cueto)
Game 4 (Arroyo)
Game 5 (Latos)

Wildcard:

Game 1 (Cueto)
Game 2 (Latos)
Game 3 (Arroyo)
Game 4 (Leake)
Game 5 (Cueto)

I actually would like to see Cueto get a few extra days rest down the stretch, as I think he could use it. And for that reason, I like the idea of starting Bailey on the road to help him get those extra days. But this is obviously what I'd like to see and not what the Reds will actually do.

757690 09-23-2012 08:14 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
I understand wanting to pitch Bailey on the road, but I want Cueto and Latos pitching in the first two games, no matter what. Playoffs isn't a time for splits. It's a whole new ballgame in the playoffs. Play your best guys, period.

If Cueto and Latos do their job in the first two games, it really won't matter much who pitches after that.

cincinnati chili 09-23-2012 08:15 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Game 1 - Latos
Game 2 - Cueto
Game 3 - Arroyo
Game 4 - Latos
Game 5 - Cueto

steig 09-23-2012 08:26 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnati chili (Post 2741857)
Game 1 - Latos
Game 2 - Cueto
Game 3 - Arroyo
Game 4 - Latos
Game 5 - Cueto

I agree 100%. i think Leake and Bailey are showing signs of fatigue. Leake doesn't have the stuff to get around being tired and Bailey just isn't as dependable as I would like for the postseason.

757690 09-23-2012 08:29 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Cueto
Latos
Arroyo

Rest up for the NLCS :)

kbrake 09-23-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
I like the idea of Latos, Bailey, Cueto, Arroyo for the NLDS. I think pitching Bailey at home is just asking for a loss. Let him pitch where he is more comfortable.

Degenerate39 09-23-2012 09:39 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
For the NLDS:

1. Latos
2. Bailey
3. Cueto
4. Arroyo
5. Latos

reds44 09-23-2012 09:42 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Latos
Arroyo
Cueto
Bailey
Latos

Hoosier Red 09-23-2012 09:53 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
I think one thing is clear; Homer pitcheson Sunday night. Build rest of rotation from there.

George Foster 09-23-2012 10:56 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Latos is VERY familiar with Pac Bell park since he pitched for the Padres.

Bailey is a LOT better on the road and in a big ball park. He has no business pitching in GABP.

Cueto has struggled as of late, hope he pitches better his next start. Save him for game 3, give him some rest.

Latos has been our best pitcher the last several weeks.

cincinnati chili 09-23-2012 11:36 PM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
You people are all outsmarting yourselves.

Far be it for me to defend Homer Bailey, but has anyone noticed that all three of his September starts in Great American Ballpark have been good ones? Two of them have come against teams fighting to get into the playoffs. I don't think GAB is in his head.

The only reason you start Homer Bailey in game 1 or 2 is if you think he gives you the best chance of winning game 1 or 2. That's not the case. The Reds have two starters that are significantly better than their other 3. You absolutely want those 2 guys going in the first two games to assure that you don't come back to Cincinnati down 0-2.

But let me make the case for a 3 man rotation in a 5-game series.

Imagine it's game 4. Either the Reds would be down 2-1 or up 2-1. Who would you rather have for those games? Cueto and Latos, albeit a bit tired? or our second/third tier starters?

This of course will all be moot if the Reds slip to the #3 seed.

George Foster 09-24-2012 12:08 AM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnati chili (Post 2742167)
You people are all outsmarting yourselves.

Far be it for me to defend Homer Bailey, but has anyone noticed that all three of his September starts in Great American Ballpark have been good ones? Two of them have come against teams fighting to get into the playoffs. I don't think GAB is in his head.

The only reason you start Homer Bailey in game 1 or 2 is if you think he gives you the best chance of winning game 1 or 2. That's not the case. The Reds have two starters that are significantly better than their other 3. You absolutely want those 2 guys going in the first two games to assure that you don't come back to Cincinnati down 0-2.

But let me make the case for a 3 man rotation in a 5-game series.

Imagine it's game 4. Either the Reds would be down 2-1 or up 2-1. Who would you rather have for those games? Cueto and Latos, albeit a bit tired? or our second/third tier starters?

This of course will all be moot if the Reds slip to the #3 seed.

you are what the back of your baseball card says you are! Bailey splits are crazy better on the road. Pac Bell is a huge ball park which could help his mistake pitches...like tonight againt Gonzolas.sp?

We have beat Cain twice this year. Pitch our hot pitcher, Latos game one. Pitch Bailey against Lincecum.

If Cueto pitches good his next start, start him game 1 and Latos game 3. However Bailey needs to be game #2 starter. He's been pitching great and he will be in a big ball park.

Brutus 09-24-2012 02:31 AM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnati chili (Post 2742167)
You people are all outsmarting yourselves.

Far be it for me to defend Homer Bailey, but has anyone noticed that all three of his September starts in Great American Ballpark have been good ones? Two of them have come against teams fighting to get into the playoffs. I don't think GAB is in his head.

The only reason you start Homer Bailey in game 1 or 2 is if you think he gives you the best chance of winning game 1 or 2. That's not the case. The Reds have two starters that are significantly better than their other 3. You absolutely want those 2 guys going in the first two games to assure that you don't come back to Cincinnati down 0-2.

But let me make the case for a 3 man rotation in a 5-game series.

Imagine it's game 4. Either the Reds would be down 2-1 or up 2-1. Who would you rather have for those games? Cueto and Latos, albeit a bit tired? or our second/third tier starters?

This of course will all be moot if the Reds slip to the #3 seed.

Bailey's ERA on the road this year is 2.63. Cueto's ERA is 2.86. Now even if you assume that's a push or an edge to Cueto, consider the difference in Bailey at home (over 5 ERA) versus Cueto pitching at home (2.80).

It seems to me that, statistically, the Reds' best move is to pitch Bailey in one of the first two games if in fact he's going to get the edge over Leake for the fourth starter.

757690 09-24-2012 02:46 AM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus (Post 2742182)
Bailey's ERA on the road this year is 2.63. Cueto's ERA is 2.86. Now even if you assume that's a push or an edge to Cueto, consider the difference in Bailey at home (over 5 ERA) versus Cueto pitching at home (2.80).

It seems to me that, statistically, the Reds' best move is to pitch Bailey in one of the first two games if in fact he's going to get the edge over Leake for the fourth starter.

Statistics play out well over a whole season. In the playoffs, you get one shot. Make it your best, and Cueto and Latos are the Reds best, significantly better than any other Reds pitchers.

DGullett35 09-24-2012 06:23 AM

Re: Set your playoff rotation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reds44 (Post 2741976)
Latos
Arroyo
Cueto
Bailey
Latos

Id go with this. I think Arroyo will be the unsung hero of the playoffs for the Reds. Hes pitched just as good as Latos lately. I think it was his start before last where he gave up something like 4 runs. Other than that hes been lights out with hardly any run support. I like my odds with Latos and Arroyo going games 1 and 2. However Dusty will start Cueto game 1. I love Cueto to death but you have to go with the hot hand. Its not a time to look at what a guy did in April through August. Its about what they're currently doing here in September and into October. So hopefully Cueto finds the magic touch to his breaking stuff here on Wed. vs. the Brewers.


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