Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Per mlbtr.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...os-marmol.html

WTH? I know they wanted to deal Haren, but they couldn't do better than that?

Seems like a salary trade to me.

I would have loved Haren.

As the Cubs improve, and with the Stros out of the Central, next season will be tougher for the Reds.

Yeah, I don't get it, Marmol makes like $10M, I thought the whole point of trading Haren and Santana was saving up enough to pay Greinke and keep Hunter.

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Originally Posted by Phhhl

WTH? I know they wanted to deal Haren, but they couldn't do better than that?

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If he wasn't traded today, they would have declined his option and he'd be a free agent. They had almost no leverage.

Angels freeing up $$$ to sign Greinke?

Nice move for Cubs.

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Originally Posted by blumj

Yeah, I don't get it, Marmol makes like $10M, I thought the whole point of trading Haren and Santana was saving up enough to pay Greinke and keep Hunter.

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Don't understand this for the Angels either. Would much rather have $10M to spend than Marmol in my bullpen. Makes more sense to just let Haren go.

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Originally Posted by 757690

Don't understand this for the Angels either. Would much rather have $10M to spend than Marmol in my bullpen. Makes more sense to just let Haren go.

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Their bullpen was a problem last year, and relievers are volatile. If Marmol can be a great reliever again, that'll help them a lot, and one year 10M is nothing to the Angels.

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Originally Posted by 757690

If he wasn't traded today, they would have declined his option and he'd be a free agent. They had almost no leverage.

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Getting nothing would have been preferable. A Fahrenheit 451 style fireman who you pay $10 million? No thanks.

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Originally Posted by marcshoe

Getting nothing would have been preferable. A Fahrenheit 451 style fireman who you pay $10 million? No thanks.

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I think you're being a bit harsh on Marmol. The last 3 years he's put ERAs of 2.55, 4.01, and 3.41. He's got a career 3.38 ERA. He might not have been a relief ace the past couple years, but he's not been a bad reliever outside of 2011, and he was pretty great as recently as 2010.

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The two sides haven't agreed to a trade, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The Cubs did ask Marmol if he would waive his no-trade clause to go to the Halos, but the Angels are still speaking with other clubs
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...L1CVZg3UAcP.99

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Marmol never had the game's best control, and he seems to have less every year. I think that at this point, he's a liability in the pen. 7.3 walks per nine innings last year. 6 for his career, even, and he just turned 30. Arredondo was at 5, and I don't really want him back.