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mattfeet

11-02-2012 08:04 PM

Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Per mlbtr.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...os-marmol.html

Phhhl

11-02-2012 08:08 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

WTH? I know they wanted to deal Haren, but they couldn't do better than that?

mattfeet

11-02-2012 08:09 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Seems like a salary trade to me.

mattfeet

11-02-2012 08:09 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

I would have loved Haren.

Kc61	11-02-2012 08:23 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

As the Cubs improve, and with the Stros out of the Central, next season will be tougher for the Reds.

blumj

11-02-2012 08:23 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Yeah, I don't get it, Marmol makes like $10M, I thought the whole point of trading Haren and Santana was saving up enough to pay Greinke and keep Hunter.

757690

11-02-2012 08:23 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phhhl (Post 2773350)

WTH? I know they wanted to deal Haren, but they couldn't do better than that?

If he wasn't traded today, they would have declined his option and he'd be a free agent. They had almost no leverage.

Vottomatic

11-02-2012 08:24 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Angels freeing up $$$ to sign Greinke?

Red in Chicago

11-02-2012 08:59 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Nice move for Cubs.

757690

11-02-2012 09:20 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Quote:

Originally Posted by blumj (Post 2773356)

Yeah, I don't get it, Marmol makes like $10M, I thought the whole point of trading Haren and Santana was saving up enough to pay Greinke and keep Hunter.

Don't understand this for the Angels either. Would much rather have $10M to spend than Marmol in my bullpen. Makes more sense to just let Haren go.

Wonderful Monds

11-02-2012 09:27 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Quote:

Originally Posted by 757690 (Post 2773370)

Don't understand this for the Angels either. Would much rather have $10M to spend than Marmol in my bullpen. Makes more sense to just let Haren go.

Their bullpen was a problem last year, and relievers are volatile. If Marmol can be a great reliever again, that'll help them a lot, and one year 10M is nothing to the Angels.

marcshoe

11-02-2012 09:28 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Quote:

Originally Posted by 757690 (Post 2773357)

If he wasn't traded today, they would have declined his option and he'd be a free agent. They had almost no leverage.

Getting nothing would have been preferable. A Fahrenheit 451 style fireman who you pay $10 million? No thanks.

Wonderful Monds

11-02-2012 09:33 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcshoe (Post 2773372)

Getting nothing would have been preferable. A Fahrenheit 451 style fireman who you pay $10 million? No thanks.

I think you're being a bit harsh on Marmol. The last 3 years he's put ERAs of 2.55, 4.01, and 3.41. He's got a career 3.38 ERA. He might not have been a relief ace the past couple years, but he's not been a bad reliever outside of 2011, and he was pretty great as recently as 2010.

camisadelgolf

11-02-2012 09:44 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Quote:

The two sides haven't agreed to a trade, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The Cubs did ask Marmol if he would waive his no-trade clause to go to the Halos, but the Angels are still speaking with other clubs
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...L1CVZg3UAcP.99

marcshoe

11-02-2012 09:45 PM

Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

Marmol never had the game's best control, and he seems to have less every year. I think that at this point, he's a liability in the pen. 7.3 walks per nine innings last year. 6 for his career, even, and he just turned 30. Arredondo was at 5, and I don't really want him back.

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