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CySeymour 11-07-2012 03:18 PM

Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Never saw this one coming:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...-50-games.html

Wonderful Monds 11-07-2012 03:20 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Whoa!

cinreds21 11-07-2012 03:20 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Glad we have Mes now???? :)

kaldaniels 11-07-2012 03:24 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
From an irony POV, I love it. :D

Unassisted 11-07-2012 03:43 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
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Originally Posted by cinreds21 (Post 2774617)
Glad we have Mes now???? :)

Might be a wash. One could argue that the Reds effectively put Mes on a ~50-game suspension from the majors at the end of last season. ;)

Vottomatic 11-07-2012 03:44 PM

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I didn't see this one coming.

But then again, I'm not impressed with Mez either.

redsmetz 11-07-2012 03:49 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
So someone explain to me how these keep coming up. I understand one possibility is someone just thinks they might be able to mask things enough to not get caught, so that's one possibility. Other than that, what else can this be?

CySeymour 11-07-2012 03:55 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redsmetz (Post 2774636)
So someone explain to me how these keep coming up. I understand one possibility is someone just thinks they might be able to mask things enough to not get caught, so that's one possibility. Other than that, what else can this be?

Stupidity?

757690 11-07-2012 03:57 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redsmetz (Post 2774636)
so someone explain to me how these keep coming up. I understand one possibility is someone just thinks they might be able to mask things enough to not get caught, so that's one possibility. Other than that, what else can this be?

💰💰💰

westofyou 11-07-2012 04:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redsmetz (Post 2774636)
So someone explain to me how these keep coming up. I understand one possibility is someone just thinks they might be able to mask things enough to not get caught, so that's one possibility. Other than that, what else can this be?

Masking agents and a technology are in a race between those who take and those who test.

Until guys whole careers are threatened with expulsion expect a constant tennis match between those two groups.

Never doubt the power of the dollar as a carrot

oneupper 11-07-2012 04:14 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redsmetz (Post 2774636)
So someone explain to me how these keep coming up. I understand one possibility is someone just thinks they might be able to mask things enough to not get caught, so that's one possibility. Other than that, what else can this be?

I'd guess most users stay ahead of the curve with masking or simply because testing is not frequent and mainly urine-based. They probably get away with it most of the time and only get caught when they are unlucky with timing or the masking agent doesn't work correctly.
Grandal made it through the minors without getting caught.

Armstrong was never officially "caught", but there is little doubt today that he juiced to the max. And testing in cycling has always been far ahead of baseball's program.

757690 11-07-2012 04:27 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by westofyou (Post 2774646)
Masking agents and a technology are in a race between those who take and those who test.

Until guys whole careers are threatened with expulsion expect a constant tennis match between those two groups.

Never doubt the power of the dollar as a carrot

They are just playing the odds, which are in their favor. Grandel probably won't lose much money over this, unless he keeps juicing and gets busted again. This 50 game suspension costs him very little now, and won't have much effect a few years from when he starts making the big bucks, as long as he is productive.

WildcatFan 11-07-2012 04:31 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Moron. I'm glad we shipped him instead of Mez.

Tom Servo 11-07-2012 04:38 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Walt Jocketty is a genius.

PuffyPig 11-07-2012 05:07 PM

Re: Yasmani Grandal Suspended for PED Use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 757690 (Post 2774651)
They are just playing the odds, which are in their favor. Grandel probably won't lose much money over this, unless he keeps juicing and gets busted again. This 50 game suspension costs him very little now, and won't have much effect a few years from when he starts making the big bucks, as long as he is productive.

The cost is likely that he isn't as good as he appeared to be. He may have been on PEDs since college, and the Reds may have even suspected it.


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