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Superdude 12-04-2012 09:32 AM

Ludwick Contract Offer/ Ludwick has deal with the Reds.
 
https://twitter.com/johnfayman/statu...25632275611648

I guess we have an offer out to Ludwick. Should have some sort of response today I would think. Talk about it here!

mdccclxix 12-04-2012 09:40 AM

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Makes a lot of sense. I'm a believer in the turnaround. He had a good rhythm at the plate and you could tell his success was a mentality. He's also the Reds best bet to save money on a FA contract because he likes the team, he likes the city as well, has family close, and would possibly defer some money.

Blitz Dorsey 12-04-2012 09:44 AM

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My guess is 2 years, $13-14 million.

Jonny Gomes getting 2-years, $10 mil from the Red Sox probably drove up the market a bit. Still can't believe the Sox were dumb enough to do that. Oh wait a minute, yes I can!

I like the idea of Ludwick re-signing and I expected it. I was surprised when Fay said on Twitter last week that he doubted Ludwick would be back with the Reds in 2013.

mdccclxix 12-04-2012 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey (Post 2782727)
My guess is 2 years, $13-14 million.

Jonny Gomes getting 2-years, $10 mil from the Red Sox probably drove up the market a bit. Still can't believe the Sox were dumb enough to do that. Oh wait a minute, yes I can!

I like the idea of Ludwick re-signing and I expected it. I was surprised when Fay said on Twitter last week that he doubted Ludwick would be back with the Reds in 2013.

Fay seems to know as much as you or I do.

klw 12-04-2012 09:52 AM

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If Angel Pagan got 4/40, I would assume Ludwick gets closer to 2/20 with a team option for a 3rd year at 12 with a 2 buyout.

Benihana 12-04-2012 10:12 AM

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If the Reds are remotely considering giving Ludwick 2/20, I really hope they will entertain the Justin Upton option.

Superdude 12-04-2012 10:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by klw (Post 2782735)
If Angel Pagan got 4/40, I would assume Ludwick gets closer to 2/20 with a team option for a 3rd year at 12 with a 2 buyout.

I'm thinking the same thing. If we're not going beyond two years, I don't think he's coming cheap with the way contracts have been shaping up so far. Outside of a big deal for Upton or Choo, I don't see much else out there so I think they'll press pretty hard to get a deal done.

REDREAD 12-04-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Superdude (Post 2782745)
I'm thinking the same thing. If we're not going beyond two years, I don't think he's coming cheap with the way contracts have been shaping up so far. Outside of a big deal for Upton or Choo, I don't see much else out there so I think they'll press pretty hard to get a deal done.

Yea, I could live with 2/20.. It would be nice to get LF settled without selling the farm. I guess we all need to get used to the salary inflation that's coming.

Nice that the Reds are trying to get this settled quickly (one way or another).
If they can't work out something with Ludwick, plenty of other options available.

mdccclxix 12-04-2012 11:57 AM

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I can see where paying Ludwick some extra accomplishes a lot for the Reds. If you can get all these things for one player on a short deal, what's not to like:

1) Cleanup hitter & RHB that hits RHP pretty well
2) Retain all your starting pitching
3) Retain all your prospects
4) Leadoff is settled with Phillips > then Hamilton
5) Good clubhouse guy. Keeps the band together.
6) Probably still below market rate
7) Platoon-able guy, so won't dry up the bench guys (Heisey, Paul, hopefully Fellhauer)

I can see a slight overpay. Especially with the way the Nats, Phils, Braves and Cards are loaded with pitching. Makes you less willy nilly with your strong staff. Ludwick keeps things pinned down in a lot of ways and moves the org forward with its own. I still want a leadoff CF though, yet the market is pretty extreme there.

RedlegJake 12-04-2012 11:57 AM

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The key to any big deal is likely Ludwick...if he signs then all emphasis shifts to getting that leadoff man. If he doesn't they may go after an Upton LF type and sit back with BP and wait for Billy.

mattfeet 12-04-2012 05:12 PM

Re: Ludwick Contract Offer
 
John Fay ‏@johnfayman

#Reds talked to Ludwick, waiting hear back. "We're in the ballpark," Jocketty said. It's a 2-year deal. "I think they understand that."

mattfeet 12-04-2012 05:13 PM

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John Fay ‏@johnfayman

Jocketty things it will be resolved with Ludwick this week. "We need certainty with our roster." #reds

Reds/Flyers Fan 12-04-2012 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mattfeet (Post 2782995)
John Fay ‏@johnfayman

#Reds talked to Ludwick, waiting hear back. "We're in the ballpark," Jocketty said. It's a 2-year deal. "I think they understand that."

Get into the ballpark with Justin Upton, please.

Benihana 12-04-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan (Post 2782999)
Get into the ballpark with Justin Upton, please.

:thumbup:

klw 12-04-2012 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by klw (Post 2782735)
If Angel Pagan got 4/40, I would assume Ludwick gets closer to 2/20 with a team option for a 3rd year at 12 with a 2 buyout.

With Victorino getting 3/37.5, I wonder if Ludwick may be more like 2/22 with that 12/2 option.


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