Originally Posted by Shaggy Sanchez
Steel, I have always enjoyed reading your posts and feel that you bring a lot to the board but I am surprised by this. If I understand you correctly you are saying that Redszone is not a place to discuss baseball if you have a different viewpoint because you could be criticized and talked down too. I know that some think there isn't a problem here but wouldn't this be the main problem people are complaining about. I don't feel that anyone should be criticized or talked down to for their opinions about baseball. If someone has a different view of things then that is their perogative and I don't think Boss ever intended for people to all have the same ideas on this site and I'm sure he never wanted people to be criticized or talked down to if they did.
Shaggy, I think you're right on as far as what Redszone is for. In fact, if someone posts a view that displays solid reasoning (even if it's "subjective" or "observational"), then that person is taken seriously. Of course folks are going to attempt to confirm said observation, but there isn't a person on the board who can't alter their opinion based on valid information.
That being said, Redszone isn't a place where unsupported opinion will work regardless of the derivation. Logically supported opinion will always be valued whether it's statistical in nature or observational in nature. But if it's observational and can be confirmed (as most all observational info can) then it's more valid.
This is a mature, intelligent baseball board. I know that I don't need to tell you that, but that's the fact of the matter. Folks at Redszone like valid information. That doesn't mean "only stats" but it sure includes statistical analysis when relevant. Redszone, for quite some time IMHO, has been short on patience for opinions that can't be logically supported. Again, that doesn't mean "statistically supported" but at some point we reach a flashpoint of fact versus opinion and what I'm seeing a lot of is folks want facts to take a back seat. But that's never going to fly because this is a mature, intelligent baseball board.
The crux of the matter is that you either want to belong and contribute to a mature, intelligent baseball board or you don't. If not, there are plenty of other boards that'll cater to whatever a poster is looking for. And if a poster doesn't see a fit here, then it's up to them to determine if they want to look elsewhere for their message board enjoyment rather than continuning to try to change an established community to fit them. Fact is that no one here has ever been able to make Redszone their own personal board that does nothing but cater to what they want to post. The community won't allow it and rightly so.