Re: Game Thread: July 14th Reds vs Rockies (You guessed it, no EE!!)
Originally Posted by flyer85
ah, all three are wrong and there is no way to evaluate defense outside of subjective evaluation?
Each metric has it's shortcoming but dismissing them out of hand instead of understanding what each is telling and while taking into account what they do not. Using the three of them together can present a picture of what an indivuals defense looks like in comparison to others.
FLD% tells nothing about balls a fielder cant get to
RF does not take into account what type of pitchers a team has (do they tend FB or GB )
ZR really can't adjust for how hard a ball was hit(even though ot accounts for flys vs liners) or where a fielder may have been positioned in a zone at the time of the AB.
These shortcomings do invalidate the data, one just has to understand what they say and what they do not say. However, dismissing them out of hand instead of using them to try to create a picture of defensive ability is a bit hasty.
I never once said any defense metric is not a good source of information. I just said you using it like it's a 100% objective way of debating players is wrong in my view.
ZR is pretty much crap in my view though. I know some here love it, just my opinion.
This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.