Originally Posted by dabvu2498
Jeff Bagwell was tarded for Larry Anderson once.
Brian Giles was traded for Ricardo Rincon once.
Compared to those two stinkers, the Reds made out like bandits.
But Bagwell was more of a case of a prospect vastly exceeding expectations. He was analagous to Harang. The consensus with Harang at the trade was that his ceiling was a #5 starter. That's what all the experts and message board people said. Harang busted his rearend and made himself an above average pitcher. It was a surprise. Likewise Bagwell was well under the radar. He was considered marginal at the time.
As someone else said on that thread, Giles comes close. He was a platoon guy for Cleveland that exploded. It's still possible that Kearns or Lopez could explode into an offensive force like Giles, since they are both only 26. I am not guaranteeing it, but another few legitimate allstar appearances for Lopez certainly is not out of the question.
I guess I should say that AT THE TIME OF THE TRADE, there's never been a trade for relievers that looked this lopsided. The odd thing is that Wash is the rebuilding team and they actually got the two established talents in the deal. We got a LH rookie, and a RH with 1.5 years of service time that's had tendonitis. If you didn't know the W-L records of the two teams, you'd almost assume it was Washington that was the contender loading up for the stretch run.
Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013!
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!