Originally Posted by dougflynn23
It's hard to replace a legend, and Joe should have remembered that as he did the same. Difference was, Joe got Waite Hoyt's full support. Can Joe say he did the same for Steve Stewart?
Joe did not directly replace Waite Hoyt. As things worked back then (mid 1960's), Hoyt was an employee of the Burger Brewery which held the rights to broadcast the games. When it was announced in the late spring/ early summer of 1965 that Burger had been outbid for the broadcast rights starting with the next season, there was much talk about what would happen to Hoyt. A few weeks later he announced on air that the new rights holder, Wiedeman (sp?), had offered to retain him but he had declined their offer out of loyalty to Burger.
Jim McIntyre and Claude Sullivan were the broadcast team in 1966. When Joe retired at the end of spring training the following year he was added to the team. My recollection is that Sullivan was already suffering from what turned out to be a terminal case of cancer; and he worked very little with McIntyre and Nuxhall that year. The following year (and perhaps two more years) the team was Jim And Joe. Prior to the 1971 season Al Micheals was brought in. I have heard but cannot source it that Micheals was originally to replace Nuxhall but McIntyre resigned to save a spot on the team for Joe (those were truly different times).
Waite Hoyt at some point after leaving the radio booth did come back and work a little bit of Reds TV for a year or 2.
So while Joe replaced Waite in folks minds and hearts in the sense of being a baseball guy/ legend on the radio broadcast, he did not directly replace him in the booth.
I do agree that Joe's down grading to a part timer could have been handled better. Ironically, I think he has done some really good work (much of it with Steve) in his current limited role, probably becasue he has been spared the wear and tear of travel and doing it 6 or 7 days a week for 6 months.