Originally Posted by dougdirt
With the relievers, this is my personal opinion and more often than not, people disagree with me on it, but relievers, who are not top flight Bobby Jenks or Francisco Rodriguez type relievers wont get much attention. I dont see any of those relievers being closers, or at least dominant closers, and I dont think middle relievers impact a game enough to the point where they should be very high on any prospect ranking. Can they be good middle relievers? I think they can be for sure. Just not the closer type material that I think it would take for them to be in the top 15 for the Reds. As for Janish and Moran, I covered that earlier in reply to someone else, but I think both can be useful, yes. Age also comes into play with where some guys ranked. I just think that if some of the position players listed were to reach their potential they would be more valuable than a middle relief guy almost regardless. Just my opinion, Im not always right, but I guess I dont have a high prospect ranking for middle relief.
Generally, I agree with you about the relievers being less valuable. I guess my basis was a middle reliever is more valuable than a mop-up starter or a 25th man type position player. So by ranking some of these guys ahead of the relievers, you are basically saying you see them becoming more than 25th man on the roster material. (Which you verified with your comments about Moran and Janisch.) I guess that is a good sign. I'm not as convinced, but you have more knowledge than I do. At least these guys may bring something in trade if your assessment is correct.
So, forgetting the rankings and just looking at the players, do you see these relievers (Coutlangus, Medlock, etc.) filling a major league role above the mop-up level? The Reds have an immediate need for quality arms in the middle innings and I have hope for these guys. Also, what do you think of Pelland's future? Rotation? Bullpen? Loogy?