Originally Posted by SteelSD
1. Greg Maddux was a 21 year old rookie in 1988.
2. You can thank Roger Craig.
The Reds just hired a hitting coach without much of a history and a pitching coach with a very spotty history to join a GM without much of a history and a manager with a very spotty history. Pardon me if I don't much like filling those positions with "first chance" and "last chance"- especially if any of them have been within earshot of Dusty Baker.
I can see your point about Baker but if you'll look it up some of the staffs he's worked with have been pretty bad. He can only work with what he's given. Some of the #2 and #3 starters he had wouldn't make the AAA pitching staff on most teams. We are talking Dave Williams bad. He's worked with a lot of quality pitchers and has not screwed up a single one and got some good seasons out of some pretty ordinary pitchers. Maddux himself has said how important he was to his success. High praise in my book. You can be the best pitching coach in the game but if you're working with a bunch of jabronies and the manager is crappy and gets fired what can you do? The Reds got the protege of the best hitting coach in the majors and as a pitching coach the guy who made Greg Maddux a Hall of Famer. They hired as a GM a guy who was Assistant GM on three Division winners. The manager led a team picked to finish last to a 80-82 record this year and is 2 games under .500 for his career here. This with a team that throws Eric Milton out there every fifth day.