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Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo
I think too many posters assume that the Washington trade was/is a disaster, frankly I'm not convinced. I still believe he made a solid deal for a host of reasons the most of which is that Majewski and Bray haven't necc. yet reached their potential (Bray for sure). Not too mention Darrell Thompson and Brendan Harris. Royce Clayton obviously was a guy who we asked for to give us a steady guy for the rest of the season.
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Every time I hear this argument, I like to point out that Kearns and Lopez are 26 years old and have yet to reach their peak years. So the deal could be even worse.
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Bottom line we won't know just how good we got it or how bad we got it for quite some time. I could understand the criticism if it was blatantly obvious that the 2 main chips we got back didn't have the type of talent to warrant giving up on Kearns and Felo, but I think they do.
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The criticism is based on value at the time of the deal. Krivsky made a desperation move and undersold.
I can see Bray having a lot of value, but what about Majewski makes you think he'll be worth an *above average everyday player*? He looks like a middle reliever at best, and there are plenty of those guys around. If Krivsky's scouting eye is as keen as some people think, he shouldn't have any problem finding three or four more Majewskis that don't cost the Reds nearly as much talent.
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And I feel that when you can get pitchers for hitters of equal (or close to) talent then you must do it, unless of course you are stacked with it and frankly no one is that stacked.
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The problem is that Bray and Majewski aren't above average at their positions, but Kearns and Lopez are.
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Don't get me wrong here, I am not saying we got a better deal than everyone is stating. What I am saying is don't try to feed me that it's not a successful trade just because it hasn't worked out yet.
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If it wasn't designed to produce an immediate return, why did Krivsky make the deal mid-season?
Krivsky made the deal for two reasons: to help the Reds in 2006 and in the future. Phase One of that plan failed miserably. Phase Two has yet to play out, but Phase One was the main reason behind the timing of the deal. So yes, we are justified in criticizing it.
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On the other hand it doesn't necc. mean that some cannot rave about getting Phillips, Arroyo, Ross and the like because they have had some degree of success already. Perhaps they will not continue to have success and at some point you might be able to say hey trading off that beast Wily Mo for that Bronson guy was a really bad deal for us. And you might be right!
But for now I think Krivsky deserves the benefit of the doubt, not because I or anyone says so but just because it's the right thing to do! Have some daggon patience people, the Big Red Machine wasn't built in a day. 
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Krivksy has worn my patience thin. He has to earn my trust at this point. The Gonzalez deal helps him a little bit. Let's see how he does over the next few months.