Originally Posted by edabbs44
This trade still sickens me. And once they give Lohse millions in arbitration, it will look even worse. You don't just throw out pitchers with at least some sort of promise for million dollar major leaguers with ERAs in the 7s.
Steve Jordan from Oklahoma City asks:
Where is Zach Ward on this list? How is he behind JD Durbin? Did he slip as a prospect, or is Minnesota's system really this good? What kind of projections can you give us on Ward, where will he pan out?
A: John Manuel: He's probably in the top 30 but was not a factor for the top 10 for me. He's probably going to be a reliever, with his delivery and his stuff and his mentality. Then if he's a reliever, is he better than Eduardo Morlan, or Pat Neshek, or Jose Mijares, or Tim Lahey, or Yohan Pino, or . . . it's tough to project relievers. Ward would have been top 10 in the Reds system, and he's not really--in my mind--close to top 10 for the Twins. That says something about the Twins' system, but more about the Reds, IMO.
The chances that Ward-for-Lohse becomes the Reds' version of Kazmir-for-Zambrano is pretty darn remote. I'd say you're exaggerating quite a bit.
As great as Ward pitched at Dayton, he was at least a year too old for Low-A ball. In addition, he pitched poorly from the minute he joined the Twins. I'd wondered before the trade was made why in the world Ward wasn't promoted to Sarasota after a month or two. As it turns out, the decision to deal him for someone had probably already been made at that point and it made Zach look better to have better numbers.
Good trading involves playing the percentages sometimes and taking the risk sometimes. With this deal, as ugly as the pitchers' lines looked the day it was consummated, I think this was just one of those instances where Krivsky decided to play it safe. As long as he's not doing that as a rule, I'm okay with it.