Originally Posted by pedro
Joe Nathan? That's funny. Now, I'm not enamored of Stanton either but signing a guy like Piniero to a 4 million contract with the hopes that he might not SUCK in the bullpen is the kind of risk that only teams like the Red Sox can make. As for Dotel, I'm not a big proponent of giving 5 million to a guy who has only pitched 24 innings the last 2 years. The fact that he ended up with KC tells me that no one else was willing to take that kind of risk.
Why is Joe Nathan funny?
Nathan: age 24-25 as a starter: 109 walks in 183 2/3 innings.
Gagne: age 24-25 as a starter: ERAs of 5.15 and 4.75.
Mariano: age 25 as a starter: 19 games, 10 games started, 5.51 ERA.
Sometimes all it takes is a move to the bullpen. You can laugh at the names I just mentioned, but why couldn't it happen to Pineiro? It's a longshot, but I would have taken the risk over Stanton, Weathers, Cormier, etc. In two years these guys will be glue. If Pineiro pans out and Cincy is out of it, he would be a hot commodity at the deadline. If he bombs Cincy is still in 4th place, at best, with or without him. Good luck trying to deal the three old guys for more than Brendan Harris-type players when the deadline comes. Esspecially with those attractive 2 year deals.