Originally Posted by Highlifeman21
The Lizard needs to have talent to actually fall apart. That kid should be done with the Reds, as far as I'm concerned.
As for Belisle, they've never given him a legitimate shot in the rotation, so why should that start now?
I have to disagree with you Elizardo Ramirez. Is he ever going to be Aaron Harang? No, he isnt. Ramirez is mainly a control guy, but he has very good control, a low 90s fastball and decent offspeed stuff. He can however be a good pitcher to have at the back of the rotation. In todays game, you are probably never going to have 5 starters with ERA's under 4.25..... Its just not going to happen.
Elizardo month by month
2 starts (both quality starts)
4 starts, 1 relief appearance
Here is where things went wrong for him.
He then went on the disabled list with shoulder problems.
Take out August when he was obviously hurt and what did EZ do last year for the Reds?
64 strikeouts (5.94/9)
18 walks (1.67/9)
Also that came when the guy was 23 years old. If you cant find the value in that, I dont know what to tell you, but outside of 8 innings in August Elizardo Ramirez was very valuable for this team.
Now as for Belisle, I think he would get a chance before Bailey simply becuase I think Wayne really wants Homer in Louisville for a little bit this season, which since Belisle is in the discussion as the #5, pushes him ahead of Homer. Just my opinion though, could be totally wrong.