Re: Reds Leaders?
About Arroyo... I just have to underline what somebody already said: Charisma does NOT equal Character. And it sure as hell doesn't equal Leadership.
I remember the stories from the all-star break last year, and there's the insinuations about Bronson's 10am Flu Bug last weekend... none of which I mind. It's kinda funny and cool. Arroyo's a guy I'd like to have a beer with. Maybe try to steer him towards a less crappy band. If my girlfriend decided to have an inoperable crush on him, more power to her (as long as she also admitted that she'd not go within 10 feet of the guy if he had his wiggertastic cornrows in). In short: I *like* Bronson Arroyo, but from what I gather, there's nothing even CLOSE to the Gravitas necessary to be a Team Leader. He's a guy you put on the cover of a media guide, and who you sell lots of his jerseys; he's not, however, the proverbial Leader of Men and Mover of Women. He's kinda fluffy. Not substantial. But hopefully "fluffy" with a sub-4.50 ERA and about 15 wins per year between now and 2010. That'd do me fine.
Harang, on the other hand? Just because you find "talking to the media" to be a pointless chore doesn't mean you lack interpresonal skills. Guy seems like a rock to me: somebody you can look up to, get advice from, and talk baseball to, instead of just want to go out and get wasted with.
Dunn, too, is an interesting case study, here. I know most poeple loathe the Yankees and such, but let's face it: if you could have a Derek Jeter come up once every 15 years, you would soil your man-panties daily at the mere thought of it. But guys who can come up and "lead" from age 22 are rare, and so instead, most teams have to "develop" leaders over time. Dunn? Hey, I'm neither one of his defenders nor his bashers (last year, I think he was overpaid versus his performance, but the sad truth is that he could have the same year this year and his pay would be equal to performance just because of the way the economics of the game changed around him, so I see no reason to go fire-sale-ing the dude).... somehow, if the departure of his clown-around-buddy Kearns and the impending departure of Junior add up to him "getting it," I can think of no better guy to have gone through a maturation process and EARNED the respect of a team than Dunn. (And, if this appears to be happening, then to have EARNED a long-term contract, too.)
It's on him to step it up, though. Till then, I'm not really sure this team has ANYbody who has the overall package that you just go slap a Captain's "C" on their chest, like we had with Larkin. Maybe Junior. Maybe. But even if Griffey's your answer, he's only your answer for another year or so, so....
Well, that'd just land us back here at the start of the discussion before too long, now wouldn't it?
Last edited by FlightRick; 03-11-2007 at 12:42 AM.