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Originally Posted by RedsManRick
A fastball that doesn't fool anybody and a great curve that he can't locate consistently. He fooled a lot of people the first few years in the league and can still be quite effective when he has his curve working. However, the Giants gave him ace money to be a decent #2/3 starter for the next 7 years.
Barry Zito is Ted Lilly with a better home ball park and easier division the last 3 years. Not a bad pitcher at all, but not the guy I'd build my staff around through 2015.
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Which is exactly why I have no problem with WK and the other owner in this town not overpaying for someone in FA. Everyone knows pitchers are expensive no matter how good or bad they are.
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But in Zito's first start, he got just six swings and misses in 86 pitches. In his second start, it was only seven swings and misses in 100 pitches.
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I don't see the relevance on this. . .I mean I do, but it's not that big of a deal. I'd like to see Greg Maddux's numbers. I'm sure they're better but the guy pitches to contact. Big deal if there were 6 swings and misses. Zito is good, but not 125 million bones good. But the swing and misses has absolutely no bearing on whether I think the guy is good or not.