Originally Posted by Aronchis
Lets see a 25 year old pitcher pitching in Aball. Why do people still care about Gardner? What made his start so awesome? Think he can move to higher levels and do something similiarly? I am amazed how we overrate prospects around here.
The fact is, Bailey and Bruce have been outperformed by the Hughes's,Gallardo's and now Maybin for the last year. Maybe they just aren't that good. Maybe Bailey really is nothing more than a mythical 2 starter. Maybe Bruce is just a above average talent like Dunn(or what we project Votto to be). Maybe all they are is what they are. We all drool for the day we get a Pujols,Arod,Verlander,Beckett(who is bouncing back nicely this year FWIW). Maybe Reds baseball has been in such a talentless pit for over a decade now, we are so desperate for stardom, thus we will overrate what we can and will become messiahical in our own minds. Then leading to severe deflation when it doesn't happen.
The fact is, outside the Pirates,Royals,Devil Rays and Brewers(maybe not for much longer) the Reds are the bottom pits of baseball.
And performance only means so much in the minor leagues too. For the most part, top prospects are y-o-u-n-g, which 99% of the time means they are incomplete players and have something to learn. That is why they are in the minor leagues....to learn. If they were ready, they would be playing in Cincinnati. I don't think anyone here overrated Bruce or Bailey.... look at their scouting reports.... look at their numbers.... they go hand in hand. I mean sure I guess you can say we overrated Bruce and Bailey if scouts and the likes thought otherwise, but last I checked Jay Bruce was the best prospect listed by Baseball America in the MWL, which included Maybin and Upton, and Bailey is at worth the #2 pitching prospect in baseball. Dont get me wrong, I love Yovani Gallardo, but he doesn't have the stuff that Bailey does. I think if anything, you underrate almost all of our prospects.
As for Gardner, I dont think I am going to be throwing him into any top 10 Reds prospect conversation, but I am happy for the guy who has battled back from a major arm injury and is pitching very well. What is the problem with rooting for a guy?