Originally Posted by Always Red
exactly. Why in the world would he want to go to DC? Does he miss Bowden that badly? (I'd guess no!)
Junior's playing for a ring at this point; I just can't see him agreeing to go to the one team with a worse record than the Reds.
I could see him agreeing to a deal that would put him with a good club, though.
I don't want WK mortgaging the future to patch up the bullpen some more. Is Cordero that good, really? His WHIP is 1.81 this year...
Chad Cordero is a guy I wouldn't mind for the Reds to get their hands on, especially if they were able to use this grievance as a type of leverage to land him for below market value as zombie suggested. I don't think he'd be a savior of the Reds bullpen or anything like that, but I think he'd be a great place to start. His home run rates and walk rates are a bit high, but he also has a career K/9 of 8.32, and the Reds need relievers with that type of bat-missing ability.
Also, while I have no idea how much truth there is to anything in the original post, the Lohse tidbit caught my eye, because Lohse is going down the path of having zero compensation value if the Reds would just let him walk via free agency without trading him away. I'm not certain which specific standards Elias uses when determining Type A or B starting pitchers, but I thought those standards may have included won/loss record, ERA, and innings pitched (Elias doesn't use any type of advanced statistics for their free agent classifications). I do know that Elias uses the previous two seasons worth of statistics, which would be 2006 and 2007 for this upcoming offseason.
Let's assume for a moment that won/loss record, ERA, and innings pitched are used for starting pitchers. This is what Lohse has accomplished in 2006 and 2007 combined ...
6-15, 5.51 ERA, 179.2 innings
Simply put, that right there just won't cut it for compensation purposes. He's probably to the point now where he'd have to put up a 2.00 ERA over his next 100 innings pitched to jump into Type B status which would allow the Reds to gain a compensation pick for him.
It looks like if there's to be any return for Kyle Lohse, it's going to have to come via trade.