Originally Posted by dougdirt
Both of those guys had injuries. They didnt just not perform. Big difference in getting hurt and just sucking.
Yeah I know they were both hurt. Regarding the question of whether either of them was ever going to be good IMO... Howington, maybe. Gruler was just a god-awful pick. No. 3 of the draft with those credentials? Terrible. And really fit perfectly in line with the rest of our drafts under Bowden.
Basically, the Reds drafted Gruler knowing they could sign him. Nevermind he wasn't qualified. And even though they signed him for a little bit under market value for the No. 3 pick, it was WAY overvalue for Chris Gruler.
And I still think they mishandled Howington. Or didn't do enough homework before they drafted him. A kid doesn't just completely break down that fast without a previous injury, or with some mishandling by the organization.