Originally Posted by Jefferson24
Arroyo is 4 and 12 with a 4.72. I don't consider that above average.
He has decent "stuff" once in a while but the bottom line is does he win? The answer is he wins 17% of his starts. We could do better. If this is your number 2 guy then you've really got problems, which of course we do.
Actually, Arroyo has been a pretty similar pitcher to last year, where he had a 4.21 DIPS ERA, but was lucky in regards to balls put into play, as his BABIP was .279. This year, his DIPS ERA is 4.28, but with a .324 BABIP. If you want a true indication of Arroyos ability, combine his 2 years as a Red.
Also, wins and losses are probably the dumbest measure of a pitchers ability, because they are too team dependent. Last year, Jake Peavy went 11-14, while the far inferior Steve Trachsel went 15-8. Wins and losses just don't tell the the story about how good a pitcher is.