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HokieRed · 08-02-2007, 02:26 PM

Would we want to pay Kyle Lohse 26.45 million for the next three years? If not, I'm not sure Arroyo is much of a deal at that price. This year they've been nearly identical pitchers. Over their whole careers, Arroyo has about a .5 advantage in ERA, but he's thrown about 60% of his total innings in the NL whereas Lohse has only thrown about 20% of his in the NL, so league factor is part of the difference. This is not to say Arroyo's not a useful pitcher. I'm glad we didn't send him to Atlanta for Reyes and Escobar, though I would have been delighted to see him go for Salty. My question is just about trying to assess how good a pitcher Arroyo is. It's been a tough question for Reds fans because it's all wrapped up with feelings about Krivsky. Certainly Arroyo has been one of his major claims to accomplishment. How much credit he deserves for that is a matter of question now as Arroyo seems to be returning to norm from last year's excellence.

08-02-2007, 02:26 PM	#13
HokieRed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,055	Re: I'm so glad Wayne didn't....... Would we want to pay Kyle Lohse 26.45 million for the next three years? If not, I'm not sure Arroyo is much of a deal at that price. This year they've been nearly identical pitchers. Over their whole careers, Arroyo has about a .5 advantage in ERA, but he's thrown about 60% of his total innings in the NL whereas Lohse has only thrown about 20% of his in the NL, so league factor is part of the difference. This is not to say Arroyo's not a useful pitcher. I'm glad we didn't send him to Atlanta for Reyes and Escobar, though I would have been delighted to see him go for Salty. My question is just about trying to assess how good a pitcher Arroyo is. It's been a tough question for Reds fans because it's all wrapped up with feelings about Krivsky. Certainly Arroyo has been one of his major claims to accomplishment. How much credit he deserves for that is a matter of question now as Arroyo seems to be returning to norm from last year's excellence.