Originally Posted by princeton
I think that your quantitative won/loss argument is a stronger one. Lots of guts around here. Tough to build a gut consensus.
I knew that DanO was wrong within a month. Krivsky's a huge improvement over previous 8 years. Should see if he develops a pitcher, which would make him the first in 20 years.
if Stubbs hits, it would also break a 15-year-old Pat Watkins jinx. These are important milestones.
Lots of guts is correct, but I was kind of talking about Castellini's gut here. I'm all for stability, don't get me wrong. But if we don't start to see improvement pretty soon, how much longer should Bob have to wait?
I don't know...5 years could go by and we could be having the same conversation. Improvement. Progress. Let's just see some of that. If the ML team isn't showing it and the farm isn't producing top guys, then what does Wayne have to show as proof of his work? "Depth" in the farm, which could partially be due to the fact that he had a serious amount of high picks last season? Improvement on paper, like saying "At least they have a closer now, that's due to WK"?
I don't know how much more time he needs. If people start refuting that progress needs to be made in '08, then I'm not sure what anyone expects.