Originally Posted by hippie07
I don't think Wayne's given up the season at all .... he's reportedly still in the Bedard race.. maybe he truly believes that Bailey or Volquez will perform at a #3 level this year... I don't know, but I think the Hamilton for Volquez deal was more of a "win now" move than an "I give up" move.... because in 2009 Bailey and Cueto should be real contributors and we'd be better off having Hamilton in the 08 lineup, but Volquez should be a bigger contributor in 08 than would Cueto (and possibly Bailey), so the Hamilton trade was a move to improve the 08 team (not necessarily the 09 team).
Sure, no team truly gives up.
I'm sure the Pirates are crossing their fingers and hoping for the best too.
I just see the Hamilton trade as a clear sign that Wayne decided he just wasn't going to get it done this year.
Again, perhaps when he brought Dusty and Cordero on board, he was looking at 2009 or 2010, and we just got overly excited.
IMO, we are out of the Bedard race. From what we read, Baltimore wants 3-4 prospects, and Wayne is only willing to give up one. That pretty much takes us out of it.
Some other team will be able to top our offer of Homer easily (or whichever one prospect we are willing to deal).
Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013!
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!