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Old 04-11-2008, 09:54 AM   #13
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Re: Carmona signs 7 year deal

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
Exactly.

Wayne locked up Arroyo, Harang, and Phillips to below market contracts. If somebody is taking notes on contract negotiations, they need to take them from Wayne.
He gives them out to the wrong people too.. that's what Wayne needs to learn.
When you give extensions to everyone, you are bound to get a few right

I liked the Arroyo signing, but time will tell if it is really below market. I could see that one going either way. I think it was worth the risk, but I can see the point of people that didn't like it.

Likewise Phillips is a risk,but a good one.

Harang was a no brainer. Only a total moron wouldn't have attempted that (like Dunn). Now, granted, there are some moron owners and GMs.

In the grand scheme, I think Wayne's generousity has heard the club more than it has helped them. Bad contracts like Gonzo, Stanton, Freel, Cormeir extension etc have cost the club more money than he's "saved".. IMO, he didn't really sign those 4 good contracts at below market prices.. They were around market price.. which is fine with me. But, other than Phillips.. they were all established players with a clear market value. Actually Phillips was already arb eligible, so the opportunity to make a potentially below market value deal was kind of gone..

Now if Ceuto warrants a deal like Carmona after this season and Wayne gets it done, then I will be impressed.
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