Originally Posted by FlightRick
Got it? Good.
Oh, and the "off the hook for $25 million" comment?
Any life form higher up the evolutionary chain than "houseplant"
only a dolt
Rick, it's one thing to not like a trade proposal. It's entirely different to be rude and talk down to people. It's real tempting to comment on the excess of the "Baseball Mogul" analogy and compare it to Dungeons and Dragons, but, alas, I shall not go there. You could try being mature about it like 757690 and explain that logically a trade of a starting pitcher needs to garner a starting pitcher and save the "I disagree with your trade so you're automatically the biggest idiot on the planet."
I appreciate your research on Arroyo. I agree that his last two years are pretty good, even above average (to sum it up in a few words). However, I don't see this year or the next two that follow to be above average. I'm looking at selling high before his value goes down. I know the Rockies farm system fairly well and would not consider the players mentioned as "filler" or "fodder" or anything less than ML ready players that need a change of scenery to get a chance to prove themsleves that fill needs for our Reds. I do have some bias, being that Josh Newman is my cousin.
As for Bronson, Age is not in his favor and here's the '06-'08 trend:
3.29 to 4.23 to the current 5.17
.690 to .785 to the current .947
Do I think he will end 08 with those numbers? No. But, I do think a decline from 07 would not be a surprise. He's been getting lit by lefties and righties both this year. 05-07 it was just lefties at a .819 OPS clip.
Not to get into a stats "pissing contest" but I do think he is going downhill in a hurry. I hope I'm wrong for the Red sake. But, with that said, I'd gladly make any type of friendly wager on that over/under of 65 QS in the next three years. Make me an offer.