Originally Posted by GAC
They are not going to recall Bruce (waste options) unless he is playing everyday. And I agree with that position.
Who are they holding back? And I don't want them DFAing these guys just to bring up a Bruce to sit the bench and get limited ABs. That doesn't help a 21 yr old at all.
This offense has come out of the gate in a season beginning funk. Period.
#1 - I fault key players whom we normally rely on. We have a team SLG% of .386.
Look at these numbers with RISP....
BA OB% SLG% OPS
Dunn .167 .353 .167 .520
Griffey .200 .350 .467 .817
Encarnacion .308 .500 .538 1.038
Phillips .375 .444 .625 1.069
Votto .400 .400 .900 1.300
A "typical" Baker lineup is (with OB% included)....
IMHO - Dusty Baker does not construct his lineup to maximize (get the most out of) his payers.
I wouldn't hold back Votto because of a veteran first baseman and because Votto bats left handed. So I don't see any sense in holding back Bruce just because he is 21 and bats left handed over the likes of Corey Patterson, Hopper and Freel.
I have to think that Bruce hits as well as Votto throughout the levels and that Bruce would hit as well or better than Votto at this level.
How much value does Patterson bring with his glove and bat over Bruce with his bat and glove? I don't think Patterson has any value over Bruce. We lived with a high risk Hamilton last year in center and at the plate and it turned out just fine, at least when Hamilton was healthy, I believe that it would turn out just fine with Bruce also.
I think that your discussion regarding offensive funk, the OB% and RISP
supporting data, along with Dusty having room to make out lineups that do not present the players the best chance to perform well makes a case for biting the bullet and getting Bruce up here.
As long as Dusty has junk to tinker with, he will. I believe that Bruce, like Votto is, would force Dusty to play him.
Isn't Bruce a better all round player than Votto anyway? Then why would Bruce fail at this level automatically just because he is younger and bats left handed?
Start Bruce and forget about Patterson, Hopper and Freel.
Bruce as a number 7 hitter over Patterson looks low risk to me.
Risk ? Worry ? Concerns ?
When Phillips came who knew what was coming besides a DFA second baseman allegedly with an attitude and a love for swinging for the fences?
When Hamilton came who knew what was coming after such a long layoff from a right fielder that could hit in the lower levels and never above A ball? Thrust into center field??
What was Freel or Hopper for that matter and they performed alright at their ability levels.
What was Patterson before he came here with his history, yet we accept him over Bruce?
Who and what was Keppinger, a part-time backup that might be able to sustain some hitting ability at this level, but who knew?
Something is wrong with this picture of holding Bruce back just because of his age and center field.
Stero-typing and the same old paradigm of thinking is the only thing holding Bruce back in my mind. It didn't seem to hold back the long list above, why Bruce?