Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg
I wasn't comparing Cameron to Stubbs at a certain point of their minor league levels. I was responding to the notion that a top 10 pick should OPS .850+ to justify the pick.
My point was that I'd rather have a guy OPS .770-.790 that's playing a defensive-oriented position and playing it well, over some corner outfielder hitting .850.
That's not to say Stubbs will hit .770-.790. I hope he does, but his ceiling may be more long the lines of .750-ish.
I agree with the basic premise, but that .770-.790 OPS guy in the majors normally hit a lot better than that in the minors. Also, Cameron would have been in the .825-.850 range fairly often had he not played in primo pitching parks.
Those are two important things to keep in mind when contemplating what Stubbs could be. He needs to be a lot better fairly soon in order to have a chance at that sort of career in the majors and the guy we keep looking to as the example of what Stubbs could be actually hit a lot better than his raw stats would indicate (if you neutralize his stats for 750 runs a season, he gets an .825+ OPS in eight different seasons with an .817 career mark).