Originally Posted by Slyder
Were not even in the playoff race now. Were 9.5 back of the Brewers for the Wild Card with about a half a dozen teams between us and them to jump. Thats not even close to even being mentioned. I think someone has said that it would take a record of 40-16 to be in legitimate wild card hope? What has shown from this team to do something that not even the 1990 Reds and BRM werent able to do?
Whats the point in keeping guys like Weathers and Griffey (whom I seriously doubt wed get any compensation for) for 2 months when both are likely to walk regardless because they arent getting any younger they serve a larger benefit to the team to try and get something for them in the way of prospects sometimes you get lucky or you get that one guy a GM falls in love with and you can flip him for someone who you need during the offseason or trade deadline last year. The return may be minimal but what exactly do the Reds get if they keep all these guys and they just walk with no compensation?
First, it is 40-18, which is a big difference from 40-12. THe 1990 Reds went 40-19 to start the season, and the BRM went 50-20 in the middle of 1976, which is better than 40-18. Also there exactly four teams ahead of the Reds.
But regardless, I am not talking about winning the wild card, I am talking about being competitive. There is a very big difference. To be competitive, the Reds probably need to go 35-23, which is very doable. That would keep them in the hunt until the very end.
The experience of being in the playoff hunt is valuable in and of itself. I think the problem with the Brewers last year is that they had no experience of being in the race. They folded at the end last year, but if they had been in the hunt the year before, they might have handled the pressure better. Last year seems to help them this year.
Also, I would have no problem trading Griffey, but he doesn't want to be traded, has a full no trade clause, and nobody would give up anything good for him anyway. Would you?
I can see trading Weathers or Affeldt, since they won't be a Reds next year, and losing them doesn't hurt that much. But I was talking more about Dunn. If I thought the Reds could get something that could really help them the rest of this year, and especially next year, that would be one thing, but after the Marte-Nady trade, I just don't see that happening.