Originally Posted by MWM
Hogwash. A "hustle" obsessed poster like yourself blaming BP's lack of hustle on Junior and Dunn? That's rich.
Suuurrrrrre, that's the type of "leader" the team needs.... a guy who has an "if they can do it so can I" (your words) attitude. You lay out an argument for why he dogs it down the line that paints a picture of the exat opposite of leader .... a follower. And of bad examples to boot.
Let the winning begin. We have our leader.
I am hustle obsessed because I have watched Junior and Dunn for the last several years...and during that time the organization tip toed around them...I respect Junior for his courage to come back after the injuries but he needed to hang it up a couple years ago.
BP isn't only hustle, he has a little fire in him too and don't forget he isn't a horrible performer on the field.
Not saying he didn't follo
w the leaders on the team before, just saying now he has the opportunity to step into the role of leader.
The talent hasn't and isn't here right now to win...still they have some good parts and I do believe with a young team like the Reds have that Junior and Dunn were both minus factors to everyone else.
I am in favor of the team making wholesale changes to move forward...meaning "winning"...even if that means Arroyo, Phillips, Harang and Cordero all gone...if that is what it will take.
If you look at the team as it is now and was 48 hours ago...I'd say of those left you look at BP as a/the leader...is he perfect? Nope..but having worked for leaders who are RAH RAH, LAID BACK and PATTONESQUE in some very competitive fields for 20+ years I can tell you that like I said that the "team" will respond only to the type of leader they believe...Junior is a great individual athlete who never has won anything...Dunn was a QB who turned his focus to baseball when he saw he couldn't win the number 1 spot on his team...he wasn't good enough at executing and he wasn't a strong enough leader on THAT team...could he have gone elsewhere and played? Maybe...Thing is, he is not a leader...he is not a player who is to be the center of any organization., he is a piece...a VERY GOOD PIECE but he is NOT the centerpiece of an organization at all.
Every team has a heartbeat and the Reds with Junior and or Dunn as the leader(s) were on life support...I in no means think this will turn the team around overnight but I do believe it is a HUGE step for the organization in the right direction.