Originally Posted by joe51391
I feel that the reds need to trade BP,EE and Arroyo for prospects and capitalize the fact that you can get good talent for them now instead of giving them big bucks and getting little in return ala dunn griff. Heck if someone offered great prospects for harrang I would take it. Just look at the A's Twins and Marlins they do it all the time and are always good. That is the problem we have been rebuilding wrong for 7 years now its time to do it the right way
I honestly would kind of hate to be an As or Twins fan (that said, I'd rather be a fan of them than the Reds right now). I don't think they'll ever win it all with how they run their organizations. They will undoubtedly maximize their wins per dollar spent, and they'll make some playoffs, but they probably won't ever really contend for a WS, unless they get lucky. I think Carl Pohlad, the owner of the Twins, may be the richest owner in baseball. He's got a few billion dollars. Why is he penny pinching? If I were a Twins fan, I'd be pissed that he didn't spend money and shipped out all of his good players while they were still in their primes.
I don't want to be the As or the Twins. I want our rich owners to spend some of their virtually never ending money and win. There's no reason that we should buy them a stadium and not expect Castellini and the Williams' to spend $100-$120 mil. a year. I don't want to trade Bruce when he's 27 because he'll be expensive. I want to spend some money and get some good players around him.
I don't care if Castellini loses $5 mil. one year. For one, there are only 30 baseball teams - they aren't normal business investments, they're very expensive toys only a few people can have, so treat the team that way. If you want to make a bunch of money, buy land, not one of the precious few major league franchises. Really, their only goal should be winning. There's just no way they could lose enough money that it really matters, if they were trying to win. Secondly, they'll make a killing when they decide to sell the club, so they can put the couple mil. they lost over the years back into their kids' trust funds then. In the meantime, their wives will have to lower their shoe budgets to a measley million dollars. Thirdly, if they actually did put a good product on the field, Cincinnati would go nuts. We are starving for a winner. They'd make money on that investment.
Why us fans let these obscenely wealthy owners get away with this small market garbage is beyond me. Us regular people bought them that $300 mil. stadium, we pay to watch them play, we pay for hats and jerseys, and $4 bags of peanuts, and then we tell them its OK, let's sell and start over, we're small market Cincinnati. I don't get it. I want a salary floor, not a cap. If you want to own a baseball team, you better have so much money that it doesn't matter. My dad likes to tell this story about H.L. and Lamar Hunt, who owned the old Texans of the AFL and then the Chiefs of the NFL. When Lamar Hunt was starting up the AFL and trying to compete with the NFL (actually get into the NFL), he lost like $10 mil. in the first 2 years. Some reporter asked his father, H.L., what he thinks of his son losing $10 mil. on a football team, and his dad replied, "Well, if he does it for 25 more years, I guess he'll have to come back for more money."